> How much other research is sabotaged by fraud from top universities?
Academic fraud like the kind we are discussing occurred in many many universities across many countries. It was undetectable until recently when AIs were trained on almost the entire Internet and became very capable of showing similarities between papers from different places.
> convinced everyone to be snobs about choice of school
They did not do this. Many of these schools were not designed to be elite institutions. They reached this place in large part because of the success of the students who went through them.
> So they disproportionately screw up everyone with fraud, potentially more than whatever discoveries they make
My first point was, we don't know what way the scale tips if we only see the bad things and none of the good things.
> It can take decades and billions of dollars to undo bad research done at such a high level.
We already spend billions of dollars reproducing research for exactly this reason. Remember the unreproducible superconductivity research that had everyone excited here on HN a while ago? That wasn't able to be reproduced by many scientists. We spent definitely millions of dollars to debunk that one study. Given the scale of research in our world, we all as humans spend easily billions reproducing research already
Academic fraud like the kind we are discussing occurred in many many universities across many countries. It was undetectable until recently when AIs were trained on almost the entire Internet and became very capable of showing similarities between papers from different places.
> convinced everyone to be snobs about choice of school
They did not do this. Many of these schools were not designed to be elite institutions. They reached this place in large part because of the success of the students who went through them.
> So they disproportionately screw up everyone with fraud, potentially more than whatever discoveries they make
My first point was, we don't know what way the scale tips if we only see the bad things and none of the good things.
> It can take decades and billions of dollars to undo bad research done at such a high level.
We already spend billions of dollars reproducing research for exactly this reason. Remember the unreproducible superconductivity research that had everyone excited here on HN a while ago? That wasn't able to be reproduced by many scientists. We spent definitely millions of dollars to debunk that one study. Given the scale of research in our world, we all as humans spend easily billions reproducing research already