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EU launches action against 20 airlines for greenwashing (aljazeera.com)
67 points by Qem 21 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments



European Commission press release. Doesn't contain much more information (no list of airline names) but it wasn't linked in the article https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_...


From that press release:

> Following an alert from the European Consumer Organisation (BEUC), ...

That alert's from June last year and we do have a list of 17 from there. Not gonna say it's entirely accurate of course, but it's a good-enough approximation of the list:

> The airlines targeted by the action are Air Baltic, Air Dolomiti, Air France, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, Eurowings, Finnair, KLM, Lufthansa, Norwegian, Ryanair, SAS, Swiss, TAP, Volotea, Vueling and Wizz Air.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/06/klm-climate-claims-targeted... / https://www.euractiv.com/section/aviation/news/airlines-sued...


The EU should label carbon on everything like nutrition facts on food.


Nice, what we are missing is more random regulations and bureaucracy.

If you take a plane I think it's pretty obvious to anyone you are going to burn some carbon (a bathtub worth of fuel per passenger for a transatlantic flight if I remember). It's like eating Nutella directly off the bottle. The people who don't care won't read it, the ones who care already know.


Irrelevant as the amount of carbon remains far from ovvious.


Perhaps you don't understand the definition of "random"?


Sounds nice and simple. But how do you actually calculate those numbers? What’s included? Are subcontractors or third parties counted? What if a single company uses some carbon asset in multiple product lines, is the cost divided up across the product lines based on their production ratio?


That these kinds of questions are so difficult to answer about whether something is truly green is a great reason to establish international standards and start actually figuring out how to fight carbon emissions across the board.


Does anyone know anything about 'sustainable aviation fuel' (SAF)? The last time I flew, I was given an option to pay for this, but I don't know what it actually is, how it's made, if it's carbon neutral, or if and in what ways it is 'sustainable'.


There you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_biofuel#Sustainable_a... no point in trying to summarize a complex issue like this in a tiny HN comment.


I'm disappointed that the names aren't released already, but I'm glad that something's being done. Greenwashing is wildly annoying and always takes ages to investigate properly.


I think you can read it as "any advertisement from any airline mentioning anything regarding the environmental, CO2 and carbon compensation".


Fantastic! we need a ruthless superpower to combat this nonsense




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