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Yeah I've been using them for my indie conferences since 2020. I recently argued [0] that it's not the Year for Matrix, even if Discord now has ads and is doing sketchy stuff typical of enshitification.

Unfortunately I just don't see Matrix's priorities going towards UX. I'm dropping them. Revolt has promise [1], at the very least as a stopgap.

[0] https://youtu.be/WxAO4xDPpkg

[1] https://revolt.chat




It feels a lot like “the last 10% is 99% of the work”. On paper matrix seems like a pretty perfect discord replacement. I think we just don’t realise the incredible feat of engineering that makes discord just work all the time.


fwiw, https://element.io/labs/element-x is Element’s attempt to spell out that we our priorities are absolutely going towards UX.

Meanwhile the old Element apps aren’t improving because all our (limited) bandwidth is going into Element X, which we hope to be ready this summer.




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