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Peak solar generation does not align with peak demand. That’s super basic solar 101.

> We had to burn a lot more gas and coal "all over the place" before wind and solar picked up.

I think you’re struggling to grasp the problem here. It isn’t that we won’t find a way to use energy when it’s there. It’s that the wind/solar fall short at calm/night and need something to fill in those gaps. That’s when fuel burning picks up the tab and drives us into more climate change.




I think you’re struggling to grasp the problem here.

I think you're struggling to even say the same things in one comment to the next, let alone give any evidence.

First you said Solar and wind still have no path to stability. which is vague as a statement because "stability" doesn't mean anything, but they both make money and are displacing fossil fuel. I showed you this through sources I linked.

Peak solar generation does not align with peak demand

Part of the reason why solar is useful is because it generates electricity when the demand is the highest. Solar is profitable, that's why people use it.

https://www.nrel.gov/state-local-tribal/blog/posts/phrase-of...

https://www.cnet.com/home/energy-and-utilities/peak-and-off-...

need something to fill in those gaps

Where do you think the electricity came from before solar and wind took off? It was all "gaps".

We aren't even at the point yet in most places where solar or wind fill the demand for electricity while they are at their peak.

Next time remember to back up what you're saying with links and real information.


You’re really struggling here.

Solar shows up and generates electricity when the sun shows up. It peaks around solar noon which is not when grid demand peaks (late afternoon).

Wind generation works when the wind is blowing. To make it reliable there is a lot of statistical spreading across the grid. Even then it’s subject to wind falling off.

>Where do you think the electricity came from before solar and wind took off? It was all "gaps"

It’s not gaps, it’s constant generation on demand outside of the maintenance windows.

Solar and wind are unreliable sources of electricity and have to lean on dirty energy to give people a reliable end result.

This has nothing to do with “solar makes money when it’s on”.

They are fundamentally unreliable power sources and until there is still some yet unproven breakthrough in battery technology, we’ll keep burning fossil fuels to cover their inadequacies and mark forward into further climate change.

Nuclear was a solution to this that we knew worked for this problem (CO2). We still chose to bet on solar/wind and still 50 years later have no viable solution that lets us shut off fossil fuels.

It’s a colossal fuckup globally and every new coal and gas power plant being built has solar and wind advocates to thank.


This is what you said:

still have no path to stability.

But what you seem to keep trying to argue is that solar and wind don't work because they aren't 100% of all electricity generation.

Meanwhile they are profitable and as they expand, less coal and gas electricity needs to be used.

https://electrek.co/2024/02/06/eu-coal-and-gas-collapse-wind...

Have you noticed you have no link and no evidence in any of your posts? That's because what you are saying isn't true.

This has nothing to do with “solar makes money when it’s on”.

It has everything to do with that until demand and price isn't highest during the day.

Solar and wind are unreliable sources of electricity and have to lean on dirty energy to give people a reliable end result.

And before, it was all dirty energy.

Coal generation fell by 26% in 2023 alone.

https://electrek.co/2024/02/06/eu-coal-and-gas-collapse-wind...

It’s a colossal fuckup globally and every new coal and gas power plant being built has solar and wind advocates to thank.

There is zero evidence for this. Even the things you wrote here don't connect to this wild and ridiculous assertion.

Again, you have no numbers, no data, no links and no evidence because what you're repeating is nonsense propaganda. You can keep saying the same things that aren't true, but if you try to move past bleating the same claims, you will need to look up real information and you'll find that it doesn't say what you are making up here.


Obviously not everywhere, but places where air-conditioning is needed almost year round, and heating is not, it seems to me that solar mostly lines up with when power is needed - while the sun is up. Is that not the case in specifically those regions, eg southern California or Florida?




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