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> That you are in some real or perceived negative situation does not mean I should be obligated to help you. Whether I help you or not is my own decision.

Since it's a core belief of yours, you should keep voting that way, whereas I'll keep voting to make sure the social safety nets exist since fairness and successful bootstrapping are never guaranteed.



Your problem is you think you have the moral high ground on social safety net and you don't. I'm a fan of the social safety net, it just has to be way less idiotic than it is today. To have any interest in paying for it, it needs to have far greater returns to me while costing less. That means refocusing spending on metrics that more directly benefit the tax payer (more effectively keep my employees healthy, more effectively fire shite teachers and raise education standards, keep my streets safe, provide effective transportation for both my workers and my goods to market, remove stupid nimby BS actively making all these services cost more and be less effective, etc)

Also, your vote is utterly ineffective other than annoying one time relocation penalties if the burden of dealing with this country becomes too high (not to mention, if you are in the usa both your options are coopted by people not good for me or for you). It would be far better if instead of thinking legacy social contract thoughts you started thinking in marginal cost and benefit terms.


I think you're assuming more about my policy preferences than I've let on. This conversation isn't likely to be productive as a result.


Ok, what's your policy preferences? You sound like a social contract kind of guy, which I obviously don't agree with. I would be more of a Rawlsian for legal system fairness and coercion minimization for social service provision (basically attempting to provide services that provide enough network effect benefit to the tax payer that the only coercion of the tax payer is for free loading avoidance rather than coercing tax payers into paying for things that are actively bad for them or negative value at current cost of provision)




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