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If H&M was the only store that 2.2 billion people could use for anything, I would absolutely call that a monopoly.

You can choose to shop anywhere without incurring significant detriment, you can event get H&M products at other stores.




Ok - so you're arguing that the threshold for monopoly should be well below 50%? And that should apply to any company that passed that threshold?

For example, Tesla has a monopoly on electric cars?

Do I have that right?


Obviously not.

In the descending hirarchy, you could have..

- Electronic Devices (Computers, Laptops)

- Portable Devices (Laptops, Phones)

- Mobile Phones (Samsung, Google, Apple)

- Mobile Phone OS (Android, IOS)

- Mobile Phone App Stores (Google Play, Apple AppStore, Aamazon App Store)

You're drawing the line at where a monopoly is applicable at Mobile Phones.

I'm saying since IOS has 2.2 billion devices, you can consider that it's own market large enough to be applicable for monopoly purses.


I'm afraid I don't follow. Are you saying it's a matter of absolute numbers (2.2 billion devices) and not percentage of market capture?

As I understand it, McDonalds has sold over 99 billion Big Macs.


> For example, Tesla has a monopoly on electric cars?

Tesla has sold 5.5 million cars, If Tesla decided tomorrow that I can only charge at a Tesla charger I would consider that applicable for Monopoly purposes. Tesla is a platform provider, and when they are competing with a separate product for that platform, with enough scale that should be applicable for Monopoly/Anti-Trust.

> I'm afraid I don't follow. Are you saying it's a matter of absolute numbers (2.2 billion devices) and not percentage of market capture?

My point is, with 2.2 billion devices, that's large enough to be considered it's own market that can be subjected to a monopoly.

> As I understand it, McDonalds has sold over 99 billion Big Macs.

I think you're just being facetious now.

Big Macs do not have their own market below them.


> If Tesla decided tomorrow that I can only charge at a Tesla charger I would consider that applicable for Monopoly purposes.

Thank you for explaining that. When you said "Obviously not" above, I thought you meant that your definition of monopoly shouldn't apply to Tesla - which I felt would be inconsistent.


It's a matter of both and that's where nuance gets into play...

Is McDonald's the only place people can eat a burger because they purchased a McDonald's product and are now tied to their ecosystem? No.

Is Apple's App Store the only place people can purchase apps for their products that they also purchased from Apple? That smells a bit fishier.

Context, nuance, etc. are important, that's where analogies fail because almost every analogy is broken at some level, it's an abstraction and not reality.




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