>Then how is Apple to continue development of the platform? Is your point that Apple should spend the money developing something hundreds of millions of people use, literally inventing smart phones as we know it, and they shouldn’t be able to make money on it to maintain it?
That is not my point, no. I'm saying that apple should only be allowed to make a healthy profit off of the hundreds of millions of people that use/develop on their platform. Should apple be able to profit off people using their platform absolutely, but they shouldn't be allowed to price gouge their customers and developers.
>In general, it’s illegal to punish someone or something for an action they have not taken. You are preemptively attempting to regulate with no damages. If this were a lawsuit, it’d be thrown out and used as the new definition of frivolous.
I was being generous by taking the position that apple has "never" been taken advantage of, but you're right in that it would be frivolous. So let us both take off our rose-tinted glasses and see if Apple has ever done anything to warrant regulation...
- Walter Peters v. Apple Inc (where they were sued for deceptive advertising about subscription management service you mentioned in your orignal post)
- United States v. Apple Inc. (where Apple was found guilty for price fixing e-books)
- France v. Apple Inc (Where they were found guilty of quietly sending out planned obstinate updates that destroyed older iphone battery life)
- FTC v. Apple (Where Apple was payed out 35 million to refund parents due to all of the in-app purchases apple allowed children to make without notifying the cardholder within a reasonable time frame)
Hopefully these several lawsuits where apple has already been found guilty of taken advantage of their consumers is a convincing argument that apple consumers deserve to be protected from being taken advantage of.
>Who do you trust more to be pro consumer? The company with the proven track record and a great reputation to lose or “Random Shady Company, LLC, were totes not gonna scam you”?
You're begging the question here as I'd like to have both options and be able to make my decision on a case-by-case basis. But if you insist that I answer, I'd personally use whichever one provides the smoothest checkout experience w/ a reasonable cost. (I'm not going to pay $5 more because apple's checkout is easier but I'd probably pay an extra $1 if it meant not having to leave the app.)
But again, what the heck does this have to do with my post. I'm beginning to feel like a broken record, I genuinely do not care if apple forces all payments to go through them or requires all apps to be downloaded from their store nor am I arguing that this shouldn't be the case. 3rd party app stores/payment solutions are not a required belief for me to be concerned with Apple price gouging developers that innovate on their platform. Even if they magically made both these options available right now, the reality is that 99% of users would likely still use their store and thus cause for concern.
That is not my point, no. I'm saying that apple should only be allowed to make a healthy profit off of the hundreds of millions of people that use/develop on their platform. Should apple be able to profit off people using their platform absolutely, but they shouldn't be allowed to price gouge their customers and developers.
>In general, it’s illegal to punish someone or something for an action they have not taken. You are preemptively attempting to regulate with no damages. If this were a lawsuit, it’d be thrown out and used as the new definition of frivolous.
I was being generous by taking the position that apple has "never" been taken advantage of, but you're right in that it would be frivolous. So let us both take off our rose-tinted glasses and see if Apple has ever done anything to warrant regulation...
- Walter Peters v. Apple Inc (where they were sued for deceptive advertising about subscription management service you mentioned in your orignal post)
- United States v. Apple Inc. (where Apple was found guilty for price fixing e-books)
- France v. Apple Inc (Where they were found guilty of quietly sending out planned obstinate updates that destroyed older iphone battery life)
- FTC v. Apple (Where Apple was payed out 35 million to refund parents due to all of the in-app purchases apple allowed children to make without notifying the cardholder within a reasonable time frame)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc
Hopefully these several lawsuits where apple has already been found guilty of taken advantage of their consumers is a convincing argument that apple consumers deserve to be protected from being taken advantage of.
>Who do you trust more to be pro consumer? The company with the proven track record and a great reputation to lose or “Random Shady Company, LLC, were totes not gonna scam you”?
You're begging the question here as I'd like to have both options and be able to make my decision on a case-by-case basis. But if you insist that I answer, I'd personally use whichever one provides the smoothest checkout experience w/ a reasonable cost. (I'm not going to pay $5 more because apple's checkout is easier but I'd probably pay an extra $1 if it meant not having to leave the app.)
But again, what the heck does this have to do with my post. I'm beginning to feel like a broken record, I genuinely do not care if apple forces all payments to go through them or requires all apps to be downloaded from their store nor am I arguing that this shouldn't be the case. 3rd party app stores/payment solutions are not a required belief for me to be concerned with Apple price gouging developers that innovate on their platform. Even if they magically made both these options available right now, the reality is that 99% of users would likely still use their store and thus cause for concern.