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Sun had some lovely desktop hardware. They also had SPARC.

I really miss Sun.



> I really miss Sun.

There's nothing in the world I miss so much as Sun.

I've done many startups post-Sun and there's been good highs and many lows but, there's nothing like a true hard-core tech company like Sun.

There basically are no tech companies anymore, other than Apple, but they are mass-market consumer oriented which is not interesting.


> but they are mass-market consumer oriented which is not interesting.

Kind of. Apple focuses their high end gear on creative professionals. Us Unix geeks have much more modest needs, which are often satisfied by the average uninspired Dell design. Still, Apple has a decent Unix underneath all that glitter. At the same time, there are almost no desktop-friendly Unixes besides the free crowd. HP and IBM have given up on the Unix workstation market eons ago. IBM’s POWER gear can crush the best Xeons and Epycs, but they have nothing to compete with the “good enough” low end.

It’s a shame Oracle doesn’t offer Solaris on their cloud the same way IBM offers AIX (and Z, which, surprisingly, is a certified UNIX as well) on theirs.


> Still, Apple has a decent Unix underneath all that glitter.

Had. That's what pulled me in to Apple laptops after spending the 90s convinced I'd never use a Mac.

With OS X, suddenly it was BSD, but with a Mac GUI! Cool. When OS X (10.0) came out I quickly bought a mac first time ever.

But Apple has spent the last 20+ years making OSX less and less BSD, locking out more and more core functionality into obscure nonstandard behavior.


Well... For me and a lot of people, it's still good enough - it runs MacPorts, Python, I can compile things and so on, but, TBH, I also have a couple Linux boxes lying around on my desk and on the network one hop away from my desk, so the deep hackability side is solved outside the Mac in my case.


I can share the feeling, despite my UNIX related rants, there were quite a few I actually enjoyed working on, Solaris was one of them.

Still own several Sun CDs they used to give away to developers.


You can always install OpenIndiana and use it. It’s been a while I don’t use it, but I gather it’s still a worthy daily driver (plus, Teams, Slack, Outlook, and others simply don’t have installable apps for it.


It isn't the same thing as running on Sun hardware, specially if one cares about graphics programing.


I never used Suns that way, but I assume any modern gaming desktop can run rings around their fanciest Ultra.

What they can’t do as well as a deskside Ultra Enterprise is to look impressive.




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