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Here's a challenge: find an article from either wapo or nyt which actually predicted a sure collapse. And I mean a collapse as you said rather than issues with operations. (which they had many of since the takeover) I may have missed one if it exists, but I'd bet they didn't publish anything that certain.




The first link is reporting about users panicking and one of the few comments from NYT itself is "Though there are no official signs that Twitter is going anywhere,...".

The second documents actual issues and makes no predictions.

Even the third one which is just an opinion piece about how bad of a decision maker Elon is doesn't come close to suggesting a collapse.

Please read the actual articles.


For the “Newspaper of Record” to report such fantastical news stories, as if anecdotal reports and opinions are real news, shows the obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse.

Why write such articles at all? It’s “The NYT never said it would collapse, they just reported numerous articles implying it MIGHT collapse and everyone says it will!” OK!


Knowing what many people believe is itself useful, especially if you annotate it with "there are no signs that this is actually going to happen".

> obsession with the left wing media against Twitter and their hope and vibe about its imminent collapse.

Yet, you can't show me an article that says this. Is this left wing media obsession, or is this what you believe about NYT? Twitter was a hot topic and they reported on what's happening there. It's not like there were many positive things to say since the takeover.

There are similar reports of positive things people said https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/musk-twitter-s... so it's not like only one side is presented.


Sure sure, down the memory hole. No one said Twitter would collapse after firing 7500 people. Everyone assumed it would be fine. All of these articles were simply conjecture, just something to speculate.

When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.


> When facts are uncomfortable, just rewrite the narrative.

The sources you presented failed to substantiate your argument, and instead of looking for different ones or considering you might be mistaken, you've doubled down.

Are you quite sure you are willing to take a hard look at uncomfortable facts and hazard having your mind changed?


Sorry but the 'twitter will die any day now' narrative was utterly pervasive across reddit and endless media sources were cited on a daily basis in the 6-month period that followed the buyout. It was basically the _only_ topic on r/whitepeopletwitter which had 3+ posts hit the frontpage daily.

It isn't something you can gaslight away. Everyone who was there saw it. It happened.

Interestingly enough most of the reddit posts were deleted after 3 days once they'd fallen off the frontpage. It didn't matter, there were always more being made lol. Does make it awfully hard to cite, though. Odd.


I'm not on Reddit so I'll take your word for it, but that isn't the claim being discussed.


You can just use the internet archive if you think some stuff has been deleted or modified.

All the claims I remember of a possible twitter collapse were about users abandoning it, not about some technical issue that would be unsolvable.


It's not fine. It's become a cesspit and virtually every new development over the past year has been to the detriment of its users.


Other than a quote from a political activist, these don't seem that certain about a total collapse or even speculate it


None of these 3 articles "predict a sure collapse".

One of them reports on what twitter users were saying, one reports on technical problems occurring at that time, and one is an opinion piece titled "Elon Musk Has No Idea What He’s Doing at Twitter" (but which doesn't predict a collapse AFAICT).


Zing.




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