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[dist-epoch]

What Ukraine wants right now is DJIs, not Bayraktars.

So it's a bit of reverse, consumer drone tech is superior to military tech when you take price and availability into account.

[m4rtink → dist-epoch]

For frontline use, sure. But they definitely also want cheap long range cruise missiles.

Its already hard for them with Russia using the Iranian Shahed scooter engine drones, but I don't think Russia will be really able to defend its territory against similar drones once Ukraine gets its cheap long range drone production going at speed.

[thriftwy → m4rtink]

The issue for Ukraine that even it gets the same capacity, it will not exactly be able to bomb the Lancet factory in Elabuga. Russia can keep essential stuff out of range. That's also what it did in WWII.

[LegitShady → thriftwy]

that doesn't mean there isn't stuff to bomb, stuff that they don't want to spend long range weaponry like ATACMS on.

[LegitShady → dist-epoch]

If ukraine could get a bunch of shahed clones themselves they'd happily use the on russia. They'd also get smaller drones too. They're both useful.