On: Java.sun.com is down again - breaking bad apps across the land

[eagsalazar]

Planned downtime is handled like this? It isn't hard to put up a temporary page. Just taking it down, even with notice is really poor form.

[bdunbar → eagsalazar]

At times like this I think of Lily Tomlin's Ernestine character: "We don't care. We don't have to. We're Oracle!"

(I've been dealing with Oracle for a few years. It started with just database stuff, but they kept buying applications I supported, now they own Solaris ... anyway.)

[re_todd → bdunbar]

I got a job where we don't deal with Oracle at all, life is so much better! I'd recommend it to anyone. Eat your veggies, exercise regularly, and work in an Oracle-free workplace .... this is the secret to happiness!

[bdunbar → re_todd]

work in an Oracle-free workplace .... this is the secret to happiness!

In Big Enterprise the alternative [1] to Oracle is Microsoft.

You're darned if you do and darned if you don't.

[1] Don't even mention open source. Not going to fly at BE, in my experience.

[beedogs → bdunbar]

When they bought Sun, the quality of Sun service dropped to the point where I can't imagine why anyone still buys their kit. It was remarkable.

[bdunbar → beedogs]

Sun support was remarkable. About five years ago I had a critical problem ...

There I was in the data center at 3 a.m., trying to figure out why my mirrored drive server wasn't booting on it's surviving disk.

I was groggy as heck, and even basic vi commands required a lot of thought. Actual thinking took more effort. The Support Engineer walked me through even the basic stuff

"Okay, now 'yank-yank put' to copy that line"

And a few minutes later the server booted and all was well.

We're moving as quickly as possible away from Solaris, to Linux. But service quality isn't the driver - it never is.

The problem is cost.

[reustle → eagsalazar]

That's what happens when Sun takes over.

[streptomycin → eagsalazar]

especially for 3 days..