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> Apple has not chosen to re-enter a business relationship with Epic, and has rejected Epic’s offers to do business with them. It’s a simple as that.

Apple's public comments to the point have been that Epic is free to resume publishing under the developer program if they abide by the developer agreement, and Epic's CEO has stated they have no intention to do so.

Agreeing to the program terms would seem to put them in a position where they can either argue they have standing or that they have been caused harm, but not both.




Really? How recent is this? I was pretty much under the impression that Apple was done with Epic, but I would be happy to be wrong here. If they can’t come to terms, they can’t come to terms, but it would be nice if they could.

> Agreeing to the program terms would seem to put them in a position where they can either argue they have standing or that they have been caused harm, but not both.

Agreed.


Google got slapped in their case with Epic because they offered inconsistent terms, and promoted the idea of alternative app stores while taking business measures on the back-end to prevent them.

Apple gives much more consistent terms.

The speculation is that the 15%-after-first-year subscription change was something they had actually negotiated with Netflix in an attempt to keep in-app subscriptions, which they then rolled out to everyone rather than keep as a Netflix-only deal.

I'm sure Apple is not sad Epic is off their platform, because they are a bad partner. But they would still let them back under the same terms as everyone else, if they agreed to actually abide them this time.


Okay, but in your prior comment you made it sound like Apple had made public comments that they would allow Epic back on the App Store if they agreed to abide by their terms.

The issue is the last time I recall them saying that was before they terminated Epic’s developer accounts. That was a couple of years ago at this point.

So my question was not about any of that, none of it is new to me, my question was the following: how recently, to your knowledge, did Apple say they would let Epic back in the program? I tried searching around but I didn’t turn up anything recent, or anything from after 2021, but I don’t think Apple’s statements from before they terminated the relationship are applicable at this time, so I was hoping you could provide some additional information that I am lacking.




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