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Private BitTorrent trackers are markets (profpatsch.de)
40 points by midzer 4 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 20 comments



Not all private trackers run a "hard" or "soft" ratio economy as described in this article. Some run with a ratioless economy: seed a downloaded torrent until 1:1 or for X hours, otherwise you receive a "hit and run" (HnR). Too many HnRs on your account = ban.


Yep. I don’t currently use any private trackers that have a strict classical ratio system. IMO a functioning private tracker needs augmentation even beyond what’s described in this article. Much like actual capitalist economies, classical ratio-based trackers, in reality, don’t end up working in a way that most people would want them to.


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I was explaining the same concept to my girlfriend ( in less technical words) as an example for the argument of Jaron Lanier against the free market (youtube, tiktok, soundcloud,…) where content is supposed to be created and accessed for free. The ratio and *coins arbitrarily created and determined enforces the primary purpose of these kind of place which is “Share new things, share as long as you can and the rewards is that you can be part of the elites (status and access)”.


> I was explaining the same concept to my girlfriend ( in less technical words)

This entire sentence wasn’t needed. But it communicated something about you.


It communicated exactly that GP was explaining the same concept to their girlfriend ( in less technical words).


I’m not a native speaker and learned English primarily through technical books. I may have a succint way of writing, but it does match my idea 100%. You can explain an idea in multiple ways and I rather avoid jargon (I like to tell a story) when talking to someone who is not that interested in the topic.


I don’t know your girlfriend or her interests. In my opinion, the sentence came off as condescending. You were dunking on your s/o for no clear reason. She wasn’t relevant to the rest of the comment.

I don’t mean to moralize, it just caught my eye as I scrolled by.


I didn't see any slight. I prefer it, for example, when a doctor uses less medical words when discussing things. I'm not a doctor, I don't know the vocab and jargon as well as he does.

Would you rather he just use a bunch of technical terms and jargon she won't understand? That seems pretty condescending.


I didn't get that impression at all. Using "less technical words" is not an insult.


I was thinking the same thing. Condescending attitude towards his s/o.


How is it condescing to use language the other person would understand?

Do you want experts in their field to use jargon and terminology you're not familiar with when they explain things to you?

Or do you want them to break it down, use analogies and comparisons that you would understand?

It seems pretty tone-deaf to communicate without understanding your audience and their knowledge.


You are completely missing the point. I would too use language the reciever understands in order to be understood. Me and others pointed out how it was framed and how does it add anything to the story mentioning that their partner dont understand things, thats the condescending part.


I think you are missing the point.

This post introduces an interesting analogy for something technical. A commentor says they used a similar analogy on their non-technical girlfriend.

How is that not relevant?

Also, how is mentioning someone doesn't understand something condensending?

"I was teaching my friend, who isn't a rocket scientist, about orbital mechanics"

That is not an insult or anything towards my friend. It's not condescending. It's okay for someone to not know something. Esp complex or technical topics.


> Condescending attitude towards his s/o.

Do we have a particular reason to believe that skydhook is a man, or is this an assumption?


It is an assumption of course.

it would be rather rude to assume the opposite.


> ratio, which is the bits you download divided the bits you upload.

I think this should be uploaded/download not downloaded/uploaded.


It’s a sort of mechanical analogy. In markets, prices serve to equalize supply and demand. By definition the seeding and leeching data quantities must be equal in the entire torrent system so any torrent tracker will need to “clear the market”.


> Is there a real-world equivalent? i.e. allowing rich people to exchange some of their worth for vanity items instead of investing it for future gain?

The vanity items are for future gain too


I think the word they're looking for is "buying stuff".




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