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It seems impossible to believe that the most sophisticated hackers on the planet are getting paid pocket money.



It’s their mandatory military service.

Basically a signal intelligence/hacking unit just like any other military outfit in their forces.

It is mostly 18 to 21 year olds. And I would think it looks really good in your CV if you want to work on the sector later.


Ah, thanks. I didn’t know it was mandatory. So if you want to work on Stuxnet, you’d start by climbing the corporate ladder for pocket money. Interesting.

I wonder which unit is the elite one.


Many are delusional and believe they are doing, "gods work." You couldn't pay me enough money to murder innocent children and civilians but many IDf do it for extremely low pay.


Sure, but killing people doesn’t require a lot of skill. Hacking does.

I’ve seen firsthand that security engineers tend to be paid less than mainstream dev roles, but pocket money for the best talent in the world seems unlikely. The IDF needs them more than they need the IDF. Even with religious beliefs in play, wouldn’t market forces still have an effect?


> than mainstream dev roles, but pocket money for the best talent in the world seems unlikely

Well, this of course only applies to the conscripts who are serving their mandatory (almost) 3 years in the IDF. It's not like you can leave and if you're planning to build your career in this field it obviously preferable than serving in combat or logistics units.

I would assume they are more like interns/apprentices though (how useful can most 18-20 year olds be anyway?) and most real work is done by people who are actually being paid a salary.


Military service is mandatory in Israel, so if that was where you were born, you would not have a choice.


Question, do you have to do the military service as an Israeli citizen if you live somewhere else?


Israeli students in a US college that I went to returned to Israel, temporarily, to serve their nation.


I'm not a fan of the extreme Israeli right wing politics, but then it's quite easy to sympathize with this particular effort of trying to prevent/slow down Iran from acquiring nukes.




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