> If you don't start with the professional tooling, you may have good fun, but nobody will hire you.
You're right, though some people want to learn to program to either have fun, or to make simple tools for themselves (see e.g. the discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38877423; disclaimer: I only read a small fragment, but it seemed very interesting)
too right. i am too bored with modern tools and frameworks hence i do not work as a programmer. i wish i could, but i cant get interested in it. not knowing modern tools and frameworks directly makes me unhireable. i always ask people who want to learn. do you want to learn programming, or want to be a programmer? (the later implying hirablility)
You're right, though some people want to learn to program to either have fun, or to make simple tools for themselves (see e.g. the discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38877423; disclaimer: I only read a small fragment, but it seemed very interesting)