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How F1 is laying the groundwork for 8K TV future (motorsport.com)
5 points by clouddrover on Jan 9, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 5 comments


Assuming you're sitting 10" away from your TV (common benchmark), you would need a 280" display to see the difference between 8K and 4K. In the living room, that rules out physical displays (price) and pretty much limits it to projectors. However, the most popular projector screen sizes max out at 120" (3m).

I just don't see 8K making any inroads into the living room, unless it becomes cheaper to make than 4K displays (scale). However, you would not be able to tell the difference, so the consumer benefit just isn't there.

The one place where this does make sense are large public displays.


> Assuming you're sitting 10" away from your TV (common benchmark)

Do you meant 10' (feet) here? Because 10" (inches) certainly doesn't seem like a common benchmark to me.


Quick googling suggests 4k needs 25 Mbps, and 8k would need ~100. Seems like another limiting factor is the consumers internet connection.


The bandwidth requirement doesn't quadruple with four times the resolution. It also depends what you're doing.

Bitmovin can do 4K video on demand at 2 Mbps with AV1:

https://bitmovin.com/per-title-encoding-savings

Live, low latency video can't achieve the same because it can't use all the encoder tools due to time constraints.

But Cisco was doing 1080p30 video calls with AV1 five years ago:

https://blogs.cisco.com/collaboration/cisco-leap-frogs-h-264...

They said they were surprised at the number of encoder tools they could make use of in AV1 for live video and that it's all about making smart choices in your encoder for your particular use case.

Live streaming games at 4Kp60 with AV1 can be done at 6 to 10 Mbps:

https://insider-gaming.com/how-av1-encoding-is-bringing-stre...

So for distribution with AV1 you'll get significant bit rate savings and you won't need anything like 100 Mbps for 8K.


i don't even have 4k streams yet.




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