I am not Gen X, and I did not ramble, you are just an ageist tribal presumptive jerk.
> We saw it in all the violent anti-government movements during the civil rights era
You mean non-violent? Because there has never been a succesful yet violent civil rights movement.
> glimpse of what others are going through in third world countries thanks to the internet and the explosion of easily accessible information.
You don't even have a glimpse. It doesn't work that way, seeing a video or an article isn't the same as seeing and experiencing suffering in person.
> it is very often the fault of the people running the US that those other countries are a complete mess. Just ask Iran, or Pakistan or the rest of the southern hemisphere.
No it freaking is not. How clueless are you? Do you just eat up prpaganda on reddit or something? Do you understand the concept of sovreignity? Here is a clue for you, the US itself would be much more messed up than those countries , their people didn't give a shit about their country just like you, they went tribal and cared about ideologies and their tribe, they wanted violence and revolutions and they got their wish. Do you think the CIA was responsible? Just how powerful do you think the CIA is? They supported the wrong side but it took a ton of their own people killing each other over ideology independent of the US. The CIA backs whoever favors the US, as it is their job to do so. Just like with afghanistan and 20 years and trillions of dollars, their people didn't give a shit about democracy or their country, they had tribes and traditions that were more important. You just don't get that people outside if the luxurious west have completley different worldviews and experiences.
> Again you are clearly showing your privilege because you are not in a position to be in a day to day struggle in this country and can have the benefit of sitting back and "loving" this country while being "hopeful of positive change"
Again, you are being a presumptuous dick. You can try to find out who I am or what my experience and privilege is but you presume and attack my character and personality instead of attacking my argument. Look up "ad-hominem" if you get a chance.
> You don't actually care to improve things because you yourself dont need anything more. The only thing that concerns you is to lose what you already have.
You don't know a single thing about what I need, I guarantee you would feel embarrased if you knew. You are right about losing what I have though, the shame is, the saying about not knowing what you have until it is gone is true. You are a prime example of an unfloding tragedy, you are absolutley clueless as to what you have and once it is gone you can't get it back. The problem is you are dragging everyone else with you. Do the US a favor and find another country if you hate the US. If you love your country though, let's work to improve things.
> You are the modern day version of the southerners who stated that President Johnson should "not go too fast" in adopting civil rights legislation "because look how good the people have it with separate but equal". Or todays Democrats who will happily appoint a black person to high office and call it groundbreaking progress but when it comes to actually changing fundamental operations of the US via legislation or otherwise well thats "too radical". Different era: same people.
You are a mindless propaganda repeater. I cannot be any of those things because I did not say anything about any specific change or claim that things changed too fast or the wrong change is happening or everything is fine. Again, as in previous cases you are presuming, I suspect your ideology and propaganda forces you to wrongly assume a whole lot of things. I made it clear repeatedly that my comment has nothing to do with your ideology or desire for change, my comment was entirely about making sure there is a country left to change to begin with. The house is on fire and I am asking you to help save it because we all live in it and it is a nice house, but you think I am getting in the way of your house improvement plans. You think the house needs a lot of improvement and you may be right but if you don't believe the house is yours and is better than other houses you wouldn't care about putting out the fire as is the case here.
There are plenty of immigrants who love america and want to unite and improve the country, do us a favor and emigrate so they have more room here if you hate it so much. A house divided cannot stand, choose to unite or choose to leave.
>You mean non-violent? Because there has never been a succesful yet violent civil rights movement.
No I mean violent. Those violent groups helped make MLK palatable. This is documented history. Its unclear what the trend would have been had groups like the Black Panthers(for example) not existing but it is super clear that they helped drag the leadership of the country to push forward some continued compromise because otherwise the pressure would have kept increasing and these groups were starting to affect capital. Has it accomplished everything? No. But as each one of these groups falls, another one eventually crops. up. BLM was a bust because of leadership and how they were systematically discredited before they even got going. But will it end at BLM? Of course not! It will never end until there is actual reform.
I need to stop right here: You clearly have not studied the history of the civil rights movement in the US and how violent along with non-violent struggle was a key component in getting to where we are today. The rest of your post is just strawmen because there is no cohesive argument.
> We saw it in all the violent anti-government movements during the civil rights era
You mean non-violent? Because there has never been a succesful yet violent civil rights movement.
> glimpse of what others are going through in third world countries thanks to the internet and the explosion of easily accessible information.
You don't even have a glimpse. It doesn't work that way, seeing a video or an article isn't the same as seeing and experiencing suffering in person.
> it is very often the fault of the people running the US that those other countries are a complete mess. Just ask Iran, or Pakistan or the rest of the southern hemisphere.
No it freaking is not. How clueless are you? Do you just eat up prpaganda on reddit or something? Do you understand the concept of sovreignity? Here is a clue for you, the US itself would be much more messed up than those countries , their people didn't give a shit about their country just like you, they went tribal and cared about ideologies and their tribe, they wanted violence and revolutions and they got their wish. Do you think the CIA was responsible? Just how powerful do you think the CIA is? They supported the wrong side but it took a ton of their own people killing each other over ideology independent of the US. The CIA backs whoever favors the US, as it is their job to do so. Just like with afghanistan and 20 years and trillions of dollars, their people didn't give a shit about democracy or their country, they had tribes and traditions that were more important. You just don't get that people outside if the luxurious west have completley different worldviews and experiences.
> Again you are clearly showing your privilege because you are not in a position to be in a day to day struggle in this country and can have the benefit of sitting back and "loving" this country while being "hopeful of positive change"
Again, you are being a presumptuous dick. You can try to find out who I am or what my experience and privilege is but you presume and attack my character and personality instead of attacking my argument. Look up "ad-hominem" if you get a chance.
> You don't actually care to improve things because you yourself dont need anything more. The only thing that concerns you is to lose what you already have.
You don't know a single thing about what I need, I guarantee you would feel embarrased if you knew. You are right about losing what I have though, the shame is, the saying about not knowing what you have until it is gone is true. You are a prime example of an unfloding tragedy, you are absolutley clueless as to what you have and once it is gone you can't get it back. The problem is you are dragging everyone else with you. Do the US a favor and find another country if you hate the US. If you love your country though, let's work to improve things.
> You are the modern day version of the southerners who stated that President Johnson should "not go too fast" in adopting civil rights legislation "because look how good the people have it with separate but equal". Or todays Democrats who will happily appoint a black person to high office and call it groundbreaking progress but when it comes to actually changing fundamental operations of the US via legislation or otherwise well thats "too radical". Different era: same people.
You are a mindless propaganda repeater. I cannot be any of those things because I did not say anything about any specific change or claim that things changed too fast or the wrong change is happening or everything is fine. Again, as in previous cases you are presuming, I suspect your ideology and propaganda forces you to wrongly assume a whole lot of things. I made it clear repeatedly that my comment has nothing to do with your ideology or desire for change, my comment was entirely about making sure there is a country left to change to begin with. The house is on fire and I am asking you to help save it because we all live in it and it is a nice house, but you think I am getting in the way of your house improvement plans. You think the house needs a lot of improvement and you may be right but if you don't believe the house is yours and is better than other houses you wouldn't care about putting out the fire as is the case here.
There are plenty of immigrants who love america and want to unite and improve the country, do us a favor and emigrate so they have more room here if you hate it so much. A house divided cannot stand, choose to unite or choose to leave.