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What's the state of MiniLED for gaming/movies? Isn't that best of both worlds? No burn-in, higher brightness (I know OLED would be pain to use in a room where blinds cannot be pulled down all the time). And image quality can match, or be better than OLED?



MiniLED is just LCD panel with an array of small white LEDs acting as a local array dimmable backlight.

MicroLED is like OLED but using tiny LEDs for each sub-pixel. MicroLED is still far from affordable prices and also not really able to make high resolution like 4K in a common sized TV or display. MicroLED are mostly still like 100"+ to reach 4K pixel density.


You are thinking of MicroLED. MiniLED is mostly just marketing and not close to OLED.



How are you interpreting these? Contrast, local-dimming, and black-level are all fairly poor compared to the the perfect scores received by OLED monitors.

To be fair, MiniLED displays are significantly cheaper than OLED displays, but their performance isn't really comparable.


Oh, I agree. $1,200 monitors are mostly better than $300 ones.

A more interesting comparison here IMHO is with panels using the same technology, sold around the same price (IPS or VA) and lacking Mini-LEDs backlighting.

Rtings seems to conclude that Mini-LEDs backlighting is far better than full panel back lighting.

Hell, I'm using one right now (KTC M27T20, paid 330 euros) and it's just amazingly good... even if not as good as OLED.

Also, right now, OLED also suffer from text fringing issues : https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=...


burn in as well no?


Yeah, also, but to be fair, I've got a 6 years old OLED phone without any burn-in, and a 3 years old OLED laptop without any burn-in.

So, I don't know, I guess unless you purposely display a static white element for hours every day for years, you won't live to see a burn-in on an OLED display.


Don’t forget LCD’s garbage response times. “MiniLED” screens smear a lot and lack the crisp smoothness of OLED’s 0.1ms response time


You still have motion blur with OLED due to sample-and-hold. Techniques like backlight scanning or BFI are needed to achieve true motion clarity.


Yeah, I'm actually personally pretty excited about MiniLED. It's not "perfect" in terms of lighting like OLEDs or MicroLEDs are, but they also don't suffer from many of the downsides like burn-in.

The fact that it's not as good as OLED on one performance metric doesn't mean it's smoke and mirrors, it's just a middle ground technology that makes different tradeoffs.


MiniLED is better for displays in bright environments that need better lifetimes.


I was specifically referring to MiniLED, because it is actually available in the market as of today. And it does appear to be close to OLED.


They are capable of displaying brighter whites and darker blacks, but not at the same time. :(

Check the "starfield" test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVSQTHYZXD0&t=715 - the LG OLED TV shows all the stars on a perfectly black background, the Sony LED TV shows all the stars, but the background is not perfectly black. The TCL MiniLED TV shows near-perfect black background, but is missing most of the stars!


The additional contrast of MiniLED is very low-resolution (2000 pixels or so per dimming zone). It is useless for text, for example.


>What's the state of MiniLED for gaming/movies?

If it is within your budget, take a look at Sony X95L MiniLED TV. If there was an award for least complained TV set on avsforum in recent history ( if not the whole history ) it would be the X95L.

Although I am eagerly waiting for the 2024 series to see what Sony has to offer in terms of MiniLED.


Or save your money and get a X90L and some bias lightning (ie. Medialight MK2 Flex).

But at this time of year, I'd probably rather wait for 2024 models.


Lots of OLED TVs out there. I'm not aware of any that need the blinds pulled down to use.


I sometimes need to limit outdoor light for watching a non-OLED TV, can't imagine not having to do that even more with your average OLED


MiniLED is trash.

MicroLED is the only thing that will dethrone OLED




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