Due to AI, "We are about to enter the era of mass spying," says Bruce Schneier

[stalfosknight]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/12/due-to-ai-we-are-about-to-enter-the-era-of-mass-spying-says-bruce-schneier/

[gnabgib]

The original article "AI and Mass Spying"[0], and source of this recap was heavily discussed[1] (400 points, 14 days ago, 328 comments) at the time.

[0]: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/12/the-internet-...

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530880

[Devasta]

If anything I think the opposite, the internet is going to be so flooded by AI pigswill that no one, automated or not, is going to be able to deal with it.

The governments of the world might be able to listen to your phone conversations, but I doubt anyone can listen to whispers in a tornado.

[quantified → Devasta]

It's not about web pages publishing garbage. It's your comments to HN, your emails to your cousins and book club mates, your reviews on Amazon, etc. Unless you send your friends AI pig swill mostly in your FB messenger chats?

[smfjaw]

Haven't we been in that era since the Patriot Act and Five Eyes?

[rany_ → smfjaw]

Right now a lot of the data collection is done in the hopes that it becomes useful, AI makes it possible to draw conclusions on ALL the data they're collecting on everyone at all times.

[smfjaw → rany_]

I was being a bit naive/non-descript in my first comment but I'm a pretty firm believer they already had some secret sauce that could do the same job of summarising the information they collect into a human useable level

[quantified → smfjaw]

Some sort of something. This now will be levels up from whatever they had.

[lifeisstillgood]

My take from that previous discussion is that we will have the equivalent of a full time FBI agent following us through our (digital) lives.

the issue is that a Stasi agent, a stickler for the rules FBI agent or a cross between Gandalf and the best teacher you ever had.

In other words of course it's the political framework we set up that will incentivise and guide how we use AI

[quantified → lifeisstillgood]

"We"? How often have "we" been meaningfully involved? Consider Obama's warrantless surveillance expansion and the Snowden exposures.

[bena]

https://slate.com/technology/2023/12/ai-mass-spying-internet...

The original article referenced by this article

[CatWChainsaw]

You know how when people visit North Korea all their interactions with the citizens involve a minder or five hovering nearby?

That's about to be all of us. Good job team.

[ganzuul]

> We could prohibit mass spying.

Could we though? It seems the usual suspects will do it anyway. Perhaps we should make spy tools fun and easy for everybody?

[Der_Einzige → ganzuul]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance