Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

Why would anyone need to block ads outside of the browser? This seems like it's just asking to introduce obscure errors into other apps?



I meaning Microsoft is trying to introduce ads into the file explorer and search centers...


What do you mean trying to? Look at this shit.

https://imgur.com/a/d0jq4s1

Every time you stamp it out they find a way to sneak it back in.


If that was my macOS start menu, I’d smash my display with anything I had at hand


It's pretty damn atrocious. I run a different startmenu and taskbar, but it still bugs me.

I still prefer Windows with ads modified to hide those ads over MacOS though.


I don't see the problem here. They're adding value to their OS this way, value that will result in greater profits and therefore shareholder value. My MS stock is doing great thanks to moves like this!

If you don't like it, you don't have to use MS products.


which I really doubt are serving through http(s), making this quite useless for that...


Why do you doubt that? Even Microsoft, with all their money and NIH syndrome, are unlikely to invent a brand new application protocol just to serve ads.


I think the parent is insinuating that Microsoft would just hard bake ads directly into the OS through updates? I'm not really sure though.


Because Google is implementing changes to disable adblockers in the browser.


Are people that much in love with Chrome?


I imagine it would be a chore for ChromeOS users to migrate to another OS and another browser, and ChromeOS has many attractive qualities.


In what world can you modify the OS to add something like this but you cannot modify the OS to install a better browser? (Or a better OS!)


ChromeOS puts Chrome in a nice safe sandbox (in addition to the sandboxing of Chrome tabs that happens on all OSes) that used selinux and other technologies. This requires modifications to Chrome. Replicating that for another browser might be harder than modifying ChromeOS to add something like this.


Most people don't care.


A lot of people have to use it for work whether they like it or not.


If you have to use it for work “whether you like it or not” then you’re extremely unlikely to have the permissions to install your own root certificate, which is a lot more sensitive operation than running Firefox.


Plenty of people use their personal computers for work, even if I strongly advise against it lol


Well then they’re able to install and run Firefox.

My point is the only situations where you have no control over browser installs are when the machine is locked down in such a way that you also cannot install root certificates.


Not necessarily. And there’s plenty of browser based software/services that do not work with Firefox or have a limited functionality with Firefox that are required for work.

I know back when I did more freelancing with podcast clients this was a constant problem. The OS folks were using could reek havoc if it wasn’t safari, edge, or chrome 90% of the time.


But again, you’d then just use Chrome for work and Firefox for personal browsing.

As it happens I lived through this in the early 00s with IE but back then I used Opera for personal browsing and IE for work.

Even in the very remote possibility that you can somehow make changes to root certificates but cannot install a second browser (and I’m being charitable here because there are literally zero reasons that would ever happen), it would still make more sense to update your local hosts files with a pihole-list block list rather than installing your own root cert and using a 3rd party tool to MITM all your web traffic.

I do get the appeal of this tool. I honestly do. But there are so many safer ways to solve this same problem.


I doubt you could use something like this on a work device, anyways. Allowing users to install their own root certificates would be a major faux pas.


Use Brave, they have stated adblocking will continue to work.


Why not? Lots of services are now desktop apps and since you cannot run browser adblockers on Electron apps, this is the next best thing. I also run something similar on Android so I don't see ads in apps either, not just in the browser.


If other apps run into obscure errors due to ad blocking, then it's time to find alternative apps (pending overly-aggressive blocking causing the obscure error - which I have come across, although rarely).


I’d block ads out side of my computer if it was possible, so absolutely need to block all ads in any app.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: