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But that's by weight, which is kind of a weird measure.

Conversely, there are ~130 billion wild mammals in the world [1], but only 8.1 billion people.

We're just particularly large as far as most mammals go. But in terms of population, we're still far, far outnumbered. And important metrics like diversity or endangered status depend on population counts, not biomass.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_mammals_by_population




TIL that we crossed the 8MM people threshold in 2023 (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/). I was still at "about 7MM".


> But in terms of population, we're still far, far outnumbered.

Eh, no? No other species there comes even close to 8 billion individuals. If you add the individuals from all the other species, then yes, we're outnumbered. But that's an even more odd metric.

It's a bit like saying Smith is an unusual name since the Smiths are outnumbered by people with other names.


But... the original comparison was humans vs all other mammals. So it's actually the correct metric.


The point is, that when you've got a selection of thousands[0], having one element in that selection outmatch all the others put together by a factor of 1:10 by one metric (biomass), and clearly winning by a margin of more than one magnitude in another metric (number of individuals), that certainly indicates that that particular element holds an overwhelming dominance.

Saying that we're "far outnumbered" is really nothing but Mark Twain's third form of lies.

[0] https://academic.oup.com/jmammal/article/99/1/1/4834091


What are you talking about. That's not what the conversation was about.

If you have a parliament with 100 seats, and the biggest party has 10 seats, and then 30 other parties split up the remaining 90 -- then yes, the biggest party is still far, far outnumbered. It's the largest, but it's nowhere even close to a majority.

There are no statistical lies here, so please don't make those kinds of accusations here. The point is, biomass is not the only lens to look through.




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