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He Wanted Privacy. His College Gave Him None (themarkup.org)
35 points by leotravis10 on Nov 30, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments



I would argue the root cause of this is administrative creep. Faculty don't care about student movements accross campus, but for administratos it's an opportunity to improve their job security and expand the role of the beurocracy.

Most of these technologies are solutions in search of problems. There is no need for invasive proctoring software if students just take exams in person like they always have. There are presently too many economic incentives to violate people's privacy and almost none to protect it.


Faculty may not care about this at first, but if they suspect a cheater in their midst can become pretty aggressive in pursuit of information to make their case.

The adminstration, likely not having also not thought about it hard enough to have any policy or procedure around sharing the information, will then bend over backwards to support the faculty however possible.

This capability now established then becomes as you suggest, great fodder for building rapport and demonstrating your commitment to protecting the school's interest.


> On a recent Monday, Eric Natividad woke up around 8 a.m., showered, ate breakfast, and braced himself for a day of being tracked.

Barf. I don't like surveillance culture any more than anyone else, but I especially hate histrionic culture. Surveillance is creepy, invasive and unnecessary-- so just say that. It's fucking surveillance, not the plight of a migrant worker risking death to bring water home for his children.

We're all worked up about companies using surveillance tech, but this hits closer to home than anyone thinks. Micromanagers love enabling email read receipts. "Ask before sending" is the first thing I enable in Outlook at new jobs.

The problems he has with Canvas, iPhones normalize the same behavior. Your wife/girlfriend texts you something you know is going to start a fight if your response has a single word out of place, so you don't respond (or start typing and stop). It's too late; "I know you read it and you ignored me!" Now you have two problems.

I eventually refused to use Hangouts for the same reason. Like, I love you, I do, but back the fuck off. "I'm in a meeting at work and can't deal with your shit right now" never goes over well. Appearing to not have read it is the only safe alternative to responding.

There's a fun thread on lolcow.farm about the insane shit women do to spy on their boyfriends/husbands to sniff out cheating and porn usage. IIRC it involves everything from self-taught CIA interrogation techniques to snooping through your shit and even sniffing DNS caches. (I actually learned a couple new phone forensic techniques. Thanks, ladies.) If you spend over an hour in the bathroom or stay up late gaming, you're also suspect.

Mine's tried to use the "making sure you're not a serial killer" excuse on me long ago, but it's all intel collection. They play the long game. Drugs, financial accounts and other artifacts are generally of interest too, so they know where you hide your money and your skeletons long before they withhold sex, catch you watching porn (or cheating), and cash out through divorce uncontested by threatening public humiliation. Bitcoin shook up this scheme for a while by making funds undiscoverable but that market is collapsing.

Watch your back...the NSA and your school aren't the only ones with their eye on you.


This, this was a trip. Denouncing histrionic culture before launching into paragraphs about "crazy women" via lolcow.farm. I think this is the first time I've got "lol that's enough of this site for today" on HN.


> Denouncing histrionic culture before launching into paragraphs about "crazy women" via lolcow.farm

This is what I'm talking about. I wrote one paragraph about them. The rest is anecdotal.


Oh no, it's all anecdotal.


Could it be you’re under and immense amount of stress from your environment and have fallen into a self-fulfilling prophecy world view?

Normally, emotions should not flare this intensely and sustainably.


Fast food, Shopping, and all sorts of predatory 'reward' programs are just as bad. we need to legislate what a reward is.....it's becoming used as an extortion tactic.


I remember working with someone who product managed a rewards program. He said "no way would I ever participate in one of these".


Conversely, I have worked on a product that managed a rewards program and it doesn’t bother me in the least to use them. I wonder what his program was like.


Could have been the program, could be your different comfort levels, hard to know.


We've got to make this sort of data "radioactive", because otherwise the temptation is to just gather it and hope hey, maybe someday we'll have a good use for it. Oops, got hacked!


That article reads like an episode of Black Mirror.

But I get it - he's making a valid and important point.

I'm curious how similar issues are handled in Germany or other countries with (allegedly) stronger privacy laws.




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