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what is the difference between the two definitions ?

btw, we've somehow been back-watered here on the site. I can't even find this thread in my profile, and it's only shown on the main page for this comment as a part of another thread.

Hackernews has gotten weird lately.




pewresearch.org numbers are off, it claims the US total gun deaths including suicides is only 4 times of France. Deaths by police and military seems very low.

This thread is collapsed by default, but I can still see it.




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