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[flagged] The Mushrooms That Ate Luke Perry (orionmagazine.org)
33 points by helsinkiandrew on Nov 14, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 20 comments


The experience of this article was like going to a cocktail party at a friend's house, not knowing anyone but the host. And then you get there and your friend insists on giving you the tour of the house first and while you're looking at each room, overhearing fragments of interesting conversations, but the host insists on continuing the tour. You'd like to join the conversation about death or microbiology or "fake it til you make it" culture, but you get whisked into the next room. And then you get to the end of the tour and are told its time to go home.

I thought there would be cocktails. I would've liked more depth on almost any part of this.


Yeah, that is the best way to describe it. It also avoids the topic that pulled everyone in in the first place to just talk about....things.


Wouldn’t be surprised if it was written by AI.


The headline brought me in and incremented the publishers site visit metric. I scrolled through 95% of this hunting for the part about why the mushroom suit didn't work. I'm sure their visitor session duration metric was satisfied. I was not.


> Right now, inside you, are the very organisms that will begin to break down your body after you breathe your last. Carbon dioxide accumulates in your body, creating an acidic environment and rupturing cell walls, which release an enzyme that then digests the cells. The first stage of decomposition is autolysis, literally self-digestion, with the intestines and pancreas being the strongest actors. You carry your death with you everywhere you go. This turned out to be too much for Infinity Mushrooms.

I assume that 'acidic environment' is unsuitable for mushrooms bred for fingernail clippings etc


Personally I was skimming so hard by that point that the single disconnected sentence that disclosed the buried lede was easy to overshoot.


This article barely describes why the mushrooms did _not_ eat Luke Perry, despite acknowledging that up top. All it suggests is that autolysis enzymes kill the mushrooms?


I found a blog post with a more detailed critique of the method:

https://memorialecosystemswordpress.wordpress.com/2016/05/20...


This is a great essay on “mushroom suits” and could be an HN submission on its own. Thanks for posting!


ChatGPT summary

Scientific Grounding: The post suggests that the technology behind the mushroom suit lacks scientific grounding. It questions whether the plastic box experiment conducted by the artist truly emulates the complex and changing environment of a buried body.

Fungal Enzymes: There's skepticism about the choice of shiitake and oyster mushrooms for breaking down keratin. The post highlights that these basidiomycetes (mushrooms) are not known to produce the enzymes required for breaking down keratin effectively.

Complexity of Decay: The post emphasizes that the decay of buried bodies is a complex process influenced by various factors such as soil type, moisture, temperature, pH, and the presence of organisms. The blog suggests that a plastic box containing keratin may not represent the realistic conditions of a buried body.

Role of Other Organisms: The role of other organisms, including bacteria, nematodes, and soil fungi, is underscored. The post suggests that fungi may not play a significant role in the decay process until later stages, and various organisms contribute to recycling the body.

Adipocere Formation: The post discusses the formation of adipocere, a waxy substance derived from body fat, which can preserve parts of the body for decades. Factors such as soil conditions, clothing, and depth of burial may contribute to the formation of adipocere, potentially hindering efficient decomposition.

Bio-Remediation Need: The skepticism extends to the need for extensive bio-remediation of cadaver toxins. The post questions whether such detoxification is necessary, given the natural decay processes and the likely dilution of toxins after burial.

Need for Region-Specific Techniques: The post concludes by calling for a better understanding of the decay process in natural burial practices. It suggests the development of region-specific techniques that consider factors such as soil conditions, depth, and microbial activity for efficient nutrient recycling.

In summary, the skepticism expressed in the post revolves around the scientific basis, choice of fungi, and the intricate ecological factors involved in the decay process of buried bodies, questioning the feasibility of the proposed mushroom suit concept.


Sooo...the TLDR would be...it takes a village to decompose a body?!


Come for the scientific question stay for the celebrity biography.


I agree. It was more of a nostalgia piece about the 90210 era


Yeah. Was hoping for some sort of description...


What an awful celebrity worship piece. I dont care who or what luke perry was, tell me about the friggin mushrooms


Is this what AI writing looks like? Click bait title and then pages and pages of rambling about some trivia BS that has nothing to do with it? If a person wrote this, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you feel that this is worth publishing.


Absolute doodoo this was


It’s saying a lot about the toxicity of the world around us that our own bodies are toxic waste…


They aren’t, that was value-laden unscientific nonsense.


tl;dr luke perry died and was buried in a mushroom suit that didnt do anything to his body

why? wrong article




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