What is the morality of thinking anyone is allowed to fully control my machine? ...

matheusmoreira · on Oct 30, 2023

Yeah. The audacity of these corporations. It's offensive that they even think they can dictate what our computers do or don't do.

HDThoreaun · on Oct 30, 2023

No one is forcing you to use youtube. I think the situation is more like the opposite, adblockers are trying to gain control of youtube servers in order to obtain the product without paying.

brnt · on Oct 30, 2023

YouTube isn't forced to serve me anything. If they don't want to, sure, they can go ahead. What _is_ served, I will parse however I see fit.

HDThoreaun · on Oct 30, 2023

I mean that's exactly what they're doing here... Refusing to serve the video until the ad is watched.

brnt · on Oct 31, 2023

If I can parse whatever they serve such that I can skip it, they are evidently not refusing to serve.

dartharva · on Oct 31, 2023

Adblockers run within the browser's space, they don't intrude into any servers by any means whatsoever. Your statement is completely wrong and misguided.

HDThoreaun · on Oct 31, 2023

The current implementation sends YouTube false information about whether the ad was run. That absolutely intrudes on the server. Really it's no different from telling a cashier you already paid online or something like that.

brnt · on Oct 31, 2023

I guess we're even then, since they do not respect DNT.

[Edit] can't reply to below, but since I am not violating any law, I don't see how I need to admit to anything. I'll admit to using my user agent as intended.

HDThoreaun · on Oct 31, 2023

Hey I've got no qualms about stealing from youtube. I'm just willing to admit that that's what I'm doing.

dartharva · on Nov 2, 2023

What current implementation and what false information? What are you talking about? The article literally says the opposite?

Indoctus · on Nov 7, 2023

Everything is on youtube and alternative sites either die out or don't get anything uploaded onto them. It's effectively a monopoly.