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[djaro]

So CSS should just be removed entirely... after all, why should a website get to choose how I consume it?

[drekipus → djaro]

Uh, you mean CSS overrides? Or are you purposely being silly?

The website can offer their CSS, and I can load my CSS (greasemonkey scripts) to override it. They have the choice and so do I.

The argument is "why should a website have the ability to block me from what I am doing to the content they give me"

Why should a website limit what I do?

[wkat4242 → drekipus]

You don't even need grease monkey. Allowing the user to override css is a staple design feature.

https://www.itsupportguides.com/knowledge-base/computer-acce...

Greatmonkey makes it easier to do per site though and also supports injecting JavaScript

[corbezzoli → drekipus]

Don’t be silly. You know any website can just use a canvas to show text and it’d be over. I wanna know how well your CSS overrides work on Google Docs and Google Maps.

Users lost that fight when CSS was introduced. I wish the web was just pure content, but it’s not.

[theamk → corbezzoli]

Google docs you say?

Haven't tried this myself, but this claims "distraction free writing" and "dark mode" for google docs.. lots of CSS with some JS sprinkled in... https://gist.github.com/TwistedSnakes/6eeb1590bffc67adbe8e78...

[corbezzoli → theamk]

Good job missing my point entirely

[drekipus → corbezzoli]

Google docs, maps, etc.. are sites.

You can choose not to go to them. Use open street map, or whatever.

A browser has more control over what you use.

And even yet, when all browsers follow the same standard, you have even less "control" - the standards should be for users

[eviks → corbezzoli]

They can't "just use" canvas as that's a lot of extra work (and still not a perfect substitute)

Also not clear how users lost the fight with CSS when the lack of control is due to canvas

[henry700 → djaro]

You can personalize the CSS of any website with extensions. The correct comparison here would be talking about disabling the capability to do this.

[RockRobotRock → djaro]

User's can disable or modify CSS whenever and however they want :)