On: Ask HN: Who is using the D language and likes/doesn't like it? Why?

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right, I dont want that. If I am using Python with a C plugin, or just compiling a command line C/C++ too, I dont want or need the full Visual Studio experience. and even with the Visual C++ tools or whatever its called, you still end up installing gigabytes of nonsense.

[pjmlp → 38]

It is not nonsence for doing systems programming in Windows.

Apple and Google development SDKs, or any commercial OS, have similar sizes for the SDKs.

Doing Python with a C plugin, or just compiling a command line C/C++ isn't really systems programming.

[38 → pjmlp]

> Doing Python with a C plugin, or just compiling a command line C/C++ isn't really systems programming.

I care about a minimal set of tools in order to compile C/C++ programs. thats offered by:

https://github.com/mstorsjo/llvm-mingw/releases

and also MSYS2, and even the Zig C compiler. all less than 200 MB. meanwhile Visual Studio installing about 10 GB worth. If Microsoft can offer a similar experience then I am interested.

[pjmlp → 38]

Yeah, but that isn't systems programming on Windows.

[38 → pjmlp]

what I want is to have tools to compile C/C++ programs. until microsoft offers a minimal package like this, visual C++ is generally a poor choice for any compilation of C/C++ programs, because of the bloated nature of the current offerings.