Translation of what [Mexican science person, don't have his name sorry] said in his time on stage:
"It is an honor for me to present on such a high platform the results of my analyzes derived from the study of the anatomy of these non-human bodies. As a forensic doctor, in collaboration with the biologist Jose de la Cruz Ríos, and based on the results of various scientific evidence, such as X-rays, computed tomography, three-dimensional reconstructions, macroscopic and microscopic analyses. histology, carbon 14, forensic anthropology, comparative anatomy and DNA analysis, which is the queen of evidence in forensic sciences for comparative studies, I can affirm that these bodies are not related to human beings. For this purpose, I will start with the description of the images that we will see next:
They are bodies approximately 60 cm long, covered by a white powder that, through electron microscopy, we identify as diatom powder, which allows the desiccation of the bodies as well as the absence of the generation of bacteria, fungi and cadaveric fauna. The presence of this dust allows the perfect conservation by desiccation of these bodies, causing a natural conservation process over time which we were able to calculate by applying the carbon 14 test which indicated and dated an average of 1000 years old. This makes the place where these bodies were found an ideal place for their conservation and preservation by whoever or those who deposited them at this site in Peru.
Entering the topic of anatomy, we can see that they have a humanoid structure that consists of a head, trunk, abdomen and limbs, which end in tridactyl hands and feet. The bone structure of the entire skeleton shows us perfect harmony and agreement between the joints. The final part of each bone fits perfectly with the bone that follows it and the wear of these is also observed due to the movement of the specimen's own biomechanics, being very resistant bones, but very light, strong, but light like those of the birds.
The head is an element of particular interest since it is large in its proportions compared to the body, however, it is a pneumatized skull, that is, with spaces that allow it to be very light but rigid and resistant, with a large intracranial cavity which evidence that it was a container for very large brain or neurological material. Likewise, we see that the spaces in the eye orbits are very large in size, which would allow a very wide stereoscopic vision for this specimen. It has very small nostrils and an oral cavity that, due to its jaw joint and absence of teeth, allows us to determine that its nutrition was by swallowing and not by chewing.
The neck, in turn, is a long structure that joins the head in the middle floor of the skull, which is a rarity that does not occur in primate species, since the union is in the posterior floor through the foramen magnum. , and not in the middle, which is usually circular or ovoid in shape, being something unique since in these species it is rectangular and cubic in shape. This is consistent with the four or five cervical vertebrae which are small in bone thickness but have a very wide intervertebral disc which makes it possible for this neck to be retractable like that of turtles.
In the thorax, we find a fork very similar to that of birds, which allows the shoulder joints to continue and have very wide mobility capabilities. In the thorax we find that the ribs are complete and continuous, completely circular until they join with the vertebral column, they have a very small space between them, being between 14 and 16 in number.
In the abdomen, we can evidence the presence of 3 eggs that, thanks to the tomography, we were able to show at a millimetric level that there are oviducts with the presence of millimetric eggs, this means that they were in a continuous gestation process. In addition, it confirms 100% that they are biological and organic since the process of replication or reproduction through these eggs and their development in the oviduct would be impossible to falsify.
We can also observe, thanks to tomography, the traces of muscles, tendons, ligaments and blood vessels, as well as possible organs or organelles that would have to be defined in subsequent studies. Coming to the extremities, we can point out that there is a complete harmony and agreement between the joints and the wear and tear of the biomechanics of the specimen which end in tridactyl hands and feet with 5 phalanges, this would allow them not to occupy the thumb as a position, but rather use your 3 fingers in a wrapping manner to hold things.
Here is one of the most outstanding and relevant peculiarities: that they do not have carpal and tarsal bones, the phalanges are direct to the bones of the arm and forearm, in addition to ending in a kind of nail bed for the nail and that observation of microscopes we found fingerprints, this would be impossible to replicate. These fingerprints are of particular interest since most specimens on this planet have deep or circular footprints and the fingerprints of these specimens are completely straight and horizontally linear.
Another peculiarity is that some of these bodies have metal implants that are perfectly attached within the skin and towards the surface, making a very impressive biofunctional fusion. These implants are the alloy of various metals, among which osmium and cadmium stand out, which are currently used for satellite telecommunications.
Finally, I will point out that the DNA analysis, after having been compared with more than 1 million registered species, we found that there is a significant difference between what is known and these bodies. These studies were carried out in various high-level institutions, both national and international, and the results gave evidence that 70% of the genetic material coincides with what is known, but there is a difference of 30%.
What is the relevance of this? Well, if the human being, compared to primates, has a differentiation of less than 5% and compared to bacteria, it has a differentiation of less than 15%, this would indicate that the difference found of more than 30% is something totally outside the parameter and of what expected, is foreign to what is described and known at this moment by human beings.
These studies and results are published and available to anyone who likes to analyze them or continue them. We accept that there is still much to discover and we are open to the scientific community and the world joining efforts to define what we are facing and how far we can go as a result of collaboration in a scientific and academic study.
In conclusion and for all the above, we can say that these bodies are from a non-human species that has irrefutable differences with what is described in the biology and taxonomy of the Darwinian species evolution tree, without a common or traceable predecessor or without a descent. and evolution still described. I can affirm then that these bodies are 100% real, organic and biological, that at the time they had life and are irrefutable evidence in themselves. We are facing the paradigm of describing a new species or the opportunity to accept that there has been contact with other non-human beings that were drawn and pointed out in the past in various cultures throughout the world such as Peru, Egypt and Mexico, and that today we can accept their existence among and with us. Thank you very much"
If anyone in the room is an actual geneticist I'd be interested to know what you think of this. I believe there's also xray and other visual data available however I have not presently got links to it sorry.
Why would carbon dating be relevant for extra-terrestrials? Without knowing the amount of C14 in their native environment, I don't see that you have a basis on which to calculate age from the current amount of C14.
They rely on a few assumptions that seems universal to living organism on earth. One basic one is if that org live long enough on earth, their body composition of c14 should roughly match earth. This "long enough timing" can be short as few months to years depending on which part of the body you sample the dna for analysis. Is it definitive no. It is even accurate enough to be admissible in court very similar to lie detector. But the science and statistics analysis around it are very solid and well develop that for some people it is good enough for a guesstimate than just mere gut estimate. Of course if those aliens travel to earth from their home world and immediately die, then the c14 ratio will be off. But then again given so many things we don't know, some trade-off and assumptions needed. We revere Newton even though his formula is way way wrong when we discovered Eibstein relativity. Yet, we all still use Newton good enough formula in our day to day physics. Same with C14 even if it is used for this ETs.
they offer sequences! this is a very good detail, but only the similarity of DNA is not enough. the golden standard is perlfoming a phylogenetic tree reconstruction. if it is true that more tahn 95% DNA of human same as this species, the most probaly hypothesis is that this species is another species closet to human and other primates. finally, because they offered data, we just need to wait someone perform phylogenetic tree reconstruction analysis.
p.s., so they almost say this is not a alien.(if this is true)
and I don't know how they get enough DNA. besides, NCBI automatically assigned these data belong Homo sapiens?
If the "DNA analysis" isn't entirely invented then my guess is that they have analysed the DNA of a mixture of microorganisms that happened to be present on the specimens.
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To proceed with the NGS run a library of the fragments to sequence has to be prepared first. This library preparation method was performed by CEN4GEN using a specialized protocol
proprietary of CEN4GEN labs and reagents kits based on a commercial kit called Kapa Hyper Prep that were optimal to recover fragmented DNA for ancient samples. The results of the library construction methods were successfully performed for the 3 MDA amplified samples as shown below.
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There are fields where I feel confident to have an opinion, and fields where I am entirely out of my league.
HN is full of people like myself, each with their own partially overlapping fields of expertise.
When I see something new, I don't say "well, this goes against my intuition, it must be wrong". I say, "well, this is new, and sounds fishy - but is out of my field. I wonder what real geneticists on HN have to say about it".
There are a world of unintuitive facts that I have learned this way (I plan on making a site of such things, but.. maybe next week).
As they say, be open minded, but not enough to let your brain fall out.
you folks are clearly much smarter than me: i barely have time to make snarky comments on hn next to all the other enjoyable stuff i do in my life, nevermind actually purposefully dig into informational rubbish for reasons of misplaced curiosity
This is already being shown on Polish TV (which is known to be trash) almost as "a fact", I got called by my distraught mum who just watched this being talked about (in today's Teleexpress Extra).
Arguments made on HN (that the guy behind it made a fraud in 2017, that carbon dating makes no sense) helped me to argue with her that she shouldn't believe it before we hear more proof about it.
It's 99.99999999% likely to be total tripe, but I don't like the way you shut the door on it so strongly. You should allow even a small chance of it being correct, and a larger chance of it being incorrect but perhaps interesting.
I do notice, though, that no clear photos are shown of the alleged aliens, which is a pretty good sign somebody's not being open about something
this might be a one of the great finds of all times, perhaps some indication for a Silurian hypothesis. or a sub-subterranean species with a civilisation?
Exactly. These are obviously the bodies of humans' genetically-engineered descendants from the far future; they've somehow traveled backwards in time to more than a millennia ago where some tragedy befell them and their corpses were preserved until the present day.
