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> James C Scott used to say, that city walls were all designed to keep their own people from running away,

Interesting thought and depending on time period and culture I can imagine that. But this is not how city walls were described in classic greek text? (Case in point: Sparta, famously the only greek city without city walls, had tons of slaves) or how cities worked in medieval age (where "city air" freed you from serfdom).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadtluft_macht_frei

Also walls build on defensive terrain (hills) point to protection as its usage. There is the case that walls are useful to tax trade because you can funnel wares only through a gate which doubles as a custom house.




>Sparta, famously the only greek city without city walls, had tons of slaves

Didn't the Helots live outside the city of Sparta, and mainly worked the fields?


Regardless, parent’s point is that there’s no wall keeping them in.

As an aside, the Spartans famously claimed that they were their wall. But I wonder: Spartan construction was very simple, and they despised those with expertise or a craft (the small class of free noncitizens who along with the helots did all productive work). Maybe the truth is that a project with the scope & complexity of a good city wall was simply beyond them. They couldn’t do it, so they told themselves a sour grapes story about how they never wanted a wall to begin with. Just a hunch but I like it.


Slavs had walls surrounding settlement excluding side connected to river.. it depends what trading system your culture prefers.. how open or closed is. Goths in Spain completely banned commerce outside of one designated spot. I'm not sure if they came up with this because of local... circumstances or brought it with them. Anyway it didn't help them much, quite opposite...




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