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Ask HN: What is your opinion on Tesla's work culture?
3 points by donnie12345 on Aug 28, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments
https://www.lioness.co/post/at-spacex-work-was-taken-away-from-me-in-case-i-might-retire-or-die

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/leylamohammed/elon-musk-yelled-rich-crowd-booed-dave-chappelle

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9856537/amp/Elon-Musks-explosive-temper-overworked-Tesla-staff-revealed-new-book.html

I could be drinking Mai Tai's with naked supermodels but instead I'm here with you!' New book reveals how Elon Musk would fire overworked Tesla staff on the spot during ferocious meltdowns

I'm disappointed with Musk because of the way he treats experienced older professionals :(

I have heard that you should be motivated to go beyond the job and higher productivity is a norm.




The big tech companies which came from nowhere to the top of the SP500 have always the same culture of obsessive work, no work-life balance and high competitiveness for the job.

Tesla is adding a sense of being persecuted and some sort of 'ends justifies the means' attitude when they decide that it's okay to sell vaporware, or to manipulate the stock, or to take money from consumers for products they'd never see the light of the day or when they cook the books to make the financials look better than what they are....etc etc.

On top of that you have the fact that all the above suffering and deception is for building go karts for rich people that if they ever were to become 100% of the global car supply they'd reduce warming by some 0.08C compared to ICE cars.


They aren't that expensive


Tell that to the guy in Morocco who is milking 500k miles from his turbo diesel Volvo, and all his similar in the developing world.

You need all of them to jump on board for a 100% electric compliance at the cost of trillions of dollars to reduce warming by 0.08C

Tesla is the largest inciniration of capital and man hours in the history of mankind, a testament to futility and the dangers of centralised planning.


Tesla is lifetime profitable. And succeeded in a managed market economy with incentives available to everyone (See NEVI for a current example)

There's smartphones for less than $50 but some still can't afford them. And there's lots of cheaper EV's everywhere. The Moroccan can buy a BYD instead. Just like he got a $50 phone from Sagem(can't remember what they are called today).

No one is taking his diesel away. And he bought it third/fourth hand anyway. More likely petrol engines go away than diesels

The developing world isn't a strange place to me. I was born there. People marvel at how you spend so much on pets while there's people hungry and homeless around you


> > Tesla is lifetime profitable

So is the military industrial complex that fed off taxpayers money in Afghanistan and Iraq, doesn't mean it produces a quality of life improvement for consumers at large

> > And succeeded in a managed market economy

I believe Mao called that economic strategy 'the great leap forward'

> > No one is taking his diesel away. And he bought it third/fourth hand anyway. More likely petrol engines go away than diesels

Fossil fuels (petrol or diesel) should not go away at all because such decision is a byproduct of centralised economy planning based on the time preference of the elites who live in mansions and have the luxury to wonder and wander with their minds about what would be the future 100 years from now. The vast majority of us instead we are just trying to make a living and the maximum timespan we think about is 3 months into the future.

And I should add that all that mental wondering and wandering, or should I say mental "wankering" would produce a reduction of about 0.08C if 100% global compliance were to be achieved at the cost of trillions of dollars

> > People marvel at how you spend so much on pets while there's people hungry and homeless around you

Tesla is all that on steroids and with a cult of personality slapped on the hood. But I guess you are right when you cite homelessness and poverty as something that is overlooked daily in America so a phenomenon like Tesla emerging in the US is just more of the same and should have been expected given the dangerous precedent of the War on drugs, the War on Terror, the Apollo Program, all stuff costing trillions to indulge the mental wankering of the elites


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl...

I could be drinking Mai Tai's with naked supermodels but instead I'm here with you!' New book reveals how Elon Musk would fire overworked Tesla staff on the spot during ferocious meltdowns




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