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Launch HN: Wondercraft (YC S22) – Use text-to-speech to create podcasts easily
153 points by diminikolaou on Aug 11, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 117 comments
Hi HN! We’re Dimitris and Youssef, founders of Wondercraft (https://www.wondercraft.ai/), a platform that leverages AI voices to make podcast creation simple. This video shows how it works: https://www.loom.com/share/fa8ac8eba8b9440dbe0321ccb8ba9426?....

“Hacker News Recap” (https://www.wondercraft.ai/podcasts/hacker-news-recap) a podcast produced using our platform, has been running for 4 months and currently gets close to 23k listens per month. We’ve made its analytics publicly available: https://op3.dev/show/f77aea62-97e5-5cce-92c6-9464e51c30c6.

Having previously attempted to start a podcast, we were well aware of the difficulties. Figuring out what equipment and software you need to buy is a daunting start. Editing is a lengthy and tedious process, technical difficulties often occur during recording, and planning logistics around recording is a hassle. As a result, content release is infrequent, which leads to lackluster growth.

At the same time, podcast consumption is experiencing exponential growth. There are 500M podcast listeners around the world, double in size compared to 5 years ago. Apart from the growth in listeners, podcasts are the medium that is most likely to influence behavior, which is the reason why the number of businesses having podcasts has grown 5x over the past 5 years. Finally, the last piece that led to the creation of Wondercraft is that text-to-speech models saw a big improvement about 6 months ago, with ElevenLabs releasing models with an output that is almost indistinguishable to humans (see HN thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34361651).

Wondercraft integrates realistic text-to-speech with an infrastructure that simplifies podcast creation. For example, you can integrate music, publish your podcast / create an RSS feed, generate a video for your episode, get assistance in the script generation, auto generate show notes and transcript and translate your podcast all together. All text based tasks (e.g. script assistance, show note generation, etc) are completed using a chain of custom prompts to LLM models. All text-to-speech is done through custom voices that are either synthetically generated or professionally cloned from Voice Actors, using the ElevenLabs platform. Tasks such as episode translation involve the use of both LLMs and ElevenLabs. Video generation runs using Remotion and the RSS feed is an XML creation and updating routine.

Since launching, we’ve had more than 13k users sign up to create their podcast. Use cases that we’re seeing include: businesses repurposing their blogs and generating video content for their socials; writers/bloggers/newsletters reaching audience through another medium; news outlets and publications adding a news rundown podcast in their lineup; businesses creating internal educational/cultural material; and podcast studios using Wondercraft to serve client needs faster.

Wondercraft is not a tool for fully AI generated content. Rather, we save people time by transferring content they’ve created (e.g. an article they’ve written) to another medium. This technology is best suited for news rundowns and narrational format podcasts (often used by businesses talking about a niche topic). And while interview and conversational formats will sound better person-to-person, the logistical and (often) sound quality issues remain, so we’re testing out an “Async Podcasts” feature, where an interviewee can respond to questions async in writing, share a photo and (optionally) a clip of their voice, and a podcast will be created out of it.

We’d love to hear any thoughts, comments or experiences you may have had in relation to leveraging text to speech for podcast creation. Thank you for taking the time to read!




People like podcasts, because they are interesting stories told by humans. Good podcasts have a lot of creativity behind them. Your HN Recap podcast uses a bland voice that sometimes struggles with tech terms, and the auto-generated summaries often feature deep details and miss the intention of the story. Auto-generated content on YouTube is usually misleading spam, how will you prevent your auto-generated podcasts from flooding podcast aggregators with such content?


Some people like those, some of the time. I too enjoy a good Conan or Hardcore History podcast but many other podcasts I listen to are basically audiobooks where, if the voice is good enough, I'll listen to them. History of Rome is a prime example, it's essentially a very long audiobook where the reading voice makes nearly no difference to me.


The book would still be written by a human. This product seems like AI generated spam...


We highlight that the creativity comes from the human. The text to speech is the AI Component. There is a script assistant that can help you adjust the tone of the text, but the creativity always comes from human.


The podcast you’re showing as the demo of your product’s capabilities (HN Recap) has AI-generated content. That’s not a good choice marketing-wise.


Hm, based on their site it looks like it's more of an editor where you type content that's then converted to speech, there's nothing in there that necessitates that the content be AI generated. Seems to me more of a competitor to https://www.descript.com/ than anything.


Yeah that’s write, we highlight that the content should come from human creativity.

Wrote some stuff here about comparison to Descript:

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=37089928&goto=item%3Fi...


In fact, the voice narrating Hardcore History is so.. American (no offense to anyone), swapping in another voice would actually be an improvement for me.


In relation to HN Recap, I agree that it struggles with terms, but I’d argue that the results show that the stories are captured well.

I get your point on people liking authentic stories from people and that’s the value of podcasts. There’s many different formats of podcasts and interviews/conversations are just 20% of overall podcasts. I agree with you that for the time being those formats are best done person to person. But for all other podcasts (e.g news rundowns, narrations etc), podcasts generated on Wondercraft on a daily basis are proving that as long as human creativity is there podcasts created using TTS and other AI tools can be very engaging and appealing for many. That is ultimately how the flooding of such content is regulated as well, people will only listen to content that has thought behind it so creators will not find much value in “auto generated” podcasts.


In episode “August 10th, 2023 | Vim Boss”:

1. Vim Boss - the auto-generated description fails to mention the post author is a top Neovim contributor. It is hard to tell who Bram is just from the description. It also said “the deceased iconic software Vim” (Vim is not dead…) The music feels inappropriate.

2. The Future of the Vim Project - “In an exciting movement towards the next stage of Vim project’s evolution”? What is exciting about having to deal with Bram’s death? Why would listeners care about FTP servers and websites? What does “in a paradoxical fusion of continuity and change” mean? A human would have made a segue between the two, but the robot couldn’t.

3. MS Teams channels cannot contain MS-DOS device names - “sailing through the sea of digital collaboration”? Why did it start with buzzword bingo? Why would anyone care about specific numbers re the Teams limitations? What are MSD-OS device names? (Bad pronunciation aside, a human would have provided some examples, considering they’re mentioned in the article title.) The AI summary doesn’t match the post title and what the comments focused on.

4. My Overkill Home Network - what value is there in naming all the random components in the author’s network? That’s a word salad that is difficult to parse and listen to.

The AI butchered four out of ten stories, and it didn’t do a great job of respecting a deceased person (it felt so happy about the changes in Vim). I’d rather not listen to it do world news.

PS. your podcast needs a transcript. And the last sentence felt cut off.


Thank you for taking the time to go through this. I agree that there is room for improvement and your comment makes it clear what we can improve. But I disagree with the sentiment that it does not add value. There are 1k people that tune in daily to listen to this that would agree with me: https://op3.dev/show/f77aea62-97e5-5cce-92c6-9464e51c30c6

Definitely will add transcript. The HN Recap has been a side thing for us while we have been building the Podcast Creation platform, but we will do better.


You can find 1k views (or even 10k) under spammy auto-generated videos on YouTube too.


Podcasts and Youtube Shorts have very different view count, I'm sure you know that.

In any case, it's clear that this podcast is not for you and that's ok.

Appreciate you taking the time to give us thoughtful feedback.


Don't tell me what I like. I don't care whether something is "told by humans" or not. In fact, HN Recap is the only podcast I listen to.


You’re not the only one


I love it. I am also a regular listener to "PG Essays"[1]. I would never have read so many of his essays as I'm listening to.

[1] https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hcGkyLndvbmRlcmN...


Thanks! We’re planning on adding a lot more!


No "Beating the Averages"?

Also, it's too bad it doesn't use PG's voice.


We’re adding all of the essays, should be all done by end of August.


I am a regular listener of the podcast "Hacker News Recap" (linked in the post description) and I always doubt if that's a real human reading the script. It is not a simple text-to-speech thing. Instead, it feels like a real human talking, with real emotion in it. I am already in love with Anna, the voice behind the HN Recap podcast!

Also I played around with their podcast generation tool, where it neatly built a podcast from my blog posts. This is a good example of what Generative AI can do in the media domain. Congrats on the production launch! Keep up!


Thanks for listening @vishnuharidas! Any feedback always welcome and if you want more languages let us know which ones.


This is a great product: I've listened to the HN podcast and it's great.

> podcast consumption is experiencing exponential growth

I find this so interesting! I know my personal podcast consumption has fallen off a cliff since the pandemic started. I pretty much only listen to podcasts when I commute, and I stopped commuting then. I assumed that everyone did that but I guess I was wrong.


Yeah it's a valid point, podcast consumption is definitely synonymous to commute.

I'd say these are some reasons for continued increase: - Commute has not fallen as much as we might think - More quality content is becoming available, bringing in more audience - Natural expansion from people enjoying the experience and sharing +++


I personally wouldn’t use this. I don’t know if your point about information being “locked” in written form is even being addressed here. There are so many audio books out there but I personally only really enjoy audio books delivered by the author themselves or someone who can actually capture the nuances in the text. So I think you’ll just end up moving this information from being locked in prose to being locked in sound, unless you can accurately capture the tone, nuances and the context around the whole text.


There is no question that authors delivering the work themselves is preferable. But that option is rarely available (only 20% of NYT Best Sellers have audio books read by the authors).

| "you’ll just end up moving this information from being locked in prose to being locked in sound"

I don't think that everyone shares this opinion. Your fellow YC Batchmates are very happy that Paul Graham's essays are now in audio format as an example. More than 1000 founders have subscribed to the feed.


I was listening to an audiobook the other day on a commute that was also done with AI. The main issue I had was focus, the voice was very monotone to begin with, and at one point it pronounced “it” as “IT”. I didn’t finish listening… That said, the voice isn’t that bad in the HN example.


Thank you!


How will you prevent your service from being used to flood the world with worthless algorithmically generated slop?


For the time being, realistically it’s cost prohibitive for users to generate slop without expectation for some return, so that’s a current natural mechanism.

As the prices decrease, due to model improvement, best/worst practice guides, and promotion of successful use cases may act as an additional mechanism to prevent such cases.

Realistically though, given that we’re lowering the bar of podcast creation to effectively the level of blog creation there might be an increase in slop content. I think that’s a necessary problem when you lower the barrier, but there will always be proper curation in the aggregator level. I think HM is the perfect example. Internet has made blogging so easy and there is so much slop. But it goes unnoticed given the curation.


I think you should only offer this service to people who are willing to first record the podcast in their own voice. Then your service could provide utility by replacing their voice to cleaning up their audio, removing speech impediments (e.g. "uh uh um um um"), translating to other languages, editing in music, etc. Lots of people aren't good at reading/speaking so this service could be very useful to them, but you should make them prove the content is worth their own time by making them record at least a rough reading of the script themselves.

If the creator can't be bothered to read the script, it would be a waste of time for anybody else to listen to it.


I actually think I disagree with your last sentence.

It's not that the creator can't be bothered, but that the tool unlocks features that are just not feasible for a creator. Think of Hacker News Recap for example - a 20' episode has been generated every single day for the past 122 days. That's extremely hard for a person to do. So the consistency that this enables is one feature.

Automatic translation and video generation are other features that using this method of podcast creation lead to. So it's not necessarily that the "creator can't be bothered to"... there's inherently more value in some use cases to create a podcast this way over the traditional method.


This is both brilliant and scary- I anticipate that the amount of web-scraped stuff about to land on Spotify's podcasts tab is going to be insane.


We're lowering the barrier to create a podcast so that might happen to an extent, but on the flip side, valued written content that has been confined in text format can now find its way to audio format. Paul Graham essays is a good example: https://app.wondercraft.ai/p/myqXnyUD


Did PG have to approve this? Or can you do it without his consent?


PG has not approved for this to be done with his own voice, which is why we're using a custom voice (Anna).


OPs question wasn't about using a custom trained voice. Did you receive approval to make a podcast from his written works at all?


If someone doesn’t answer your direct question, but answers a different question, then they effectively have answered your original question with no.


Cool thanks. This is impressive tech. Will give it a try for some personal projects.


Great, more robot voices. No thanks. The point of a podcast is the human part. I can just have gpt blather to me thru tts if i wanted fake podcasts. I regret saying this, but your tech will actively make the world worse.


I have to say I mostly agree and I'm very surprised at how few negative comments there are in this thread. It's good the community is supportive but with the current state of AI this product is essentially just spewing more nonsense into the world. (The podcast world already has more than enough human-generated nonsense) More importantly, I don't foresee much of a demand for this.

Hopefully the creators can either parlay a pseudo-success here and transition to something else, or, if AI drastically improves in the coming years, provide a more worthwhile service.


Strong words, but I understand where you’re coming from. I get your point on people liking authentic stories from people and that’s the value of podcasts. There’s many different formats of podcasts and interviews/conversations are just 20% of overall podcasts. I agree with you that for the time being those formats are best done person to person. But for all other podcasts (e.g news rundowns, narrations etc), podcasts generated on Wondercraft on a daily basis are proving that as long as human creativity is there podcasts created using TTS and other AI tools can be very engaging and appealing for many.

There is so much written content currently confined in written format and we have built an app that makes it very easy to convert it to engaging audio. Paul Graham essays is a prime example.

If that necessarily means there is also some “fake” podcasts, that no one will listen to anyway, I think it’s a fair exchange.

So although I understand your position, no, we are by no means making the world worse.


Different but related idea, this creates a personal podcast feed: https://reca.st


I use Speech Central with the Azure voices for listening to web articles as audiobooks/podcasts. It works quite well and is basically free. The azure voices are excellent. The text extraction engine of Speech Central fails to pull all the content out of some webpages, which is the biggest downside to this solution.

https://speechcentral.net/2023/04/14/harness-the-power-of-az...


Also https://audioread.com/. I love that you can forward emails to audioread and they'll be transcribed into podcasts. Thank you AI-voiced Matt Levine!


Thanks for sharing those. We're currently testing out the release of personalised podcasts, as the combination of LLMs and the realistic text-to-speech can lead to a solution of a quality level that has not been available until now.


Podshorty does something kind of similar, but it takes any YouTube link, summarizes it and generates a podcast using the voices of the original speakers. Also creates transcripts so you can follow along. https://www.podshorty.com


This is copyright infringement, not ok to be using and monetising off of someone else’s voice. Over the next months there are plans for way tighter controls on this so I’d expect that the “using the voices of the original speakers” feature will not be available, unless a monetisation method is developed.


Actually, according to US law, it doesn't appear to be copyright infringement. Do you have anything to back up those claims?

According to Butler v. Target Corp., it was held that although lyrics to a song are copyrightable, the underlying voice is not. As such, there is no copyright protection available to the infinite number of words or phrases a person might utter in their distinctive voice.

Additionally, the synthesized audio can be considered derivative, as it transforms the the "audio" into something entirely different than original, and so falls under 17 U.S.C.A § 103.

So, I'm not sure what you mean when you say there are plans for tighter controls. Care to back that up?

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is my personal opinion.


Sorry what is exactly your claim here? That it is legal to use and monetise off of someone else's voice? Using Morgan Freeman's or Joe Rogan's voice for example to host your podcasts?


I'm just pointing out that there is a lot of legal gray area when it comes to AI-synthesized voices and copyright. It still remains to be seen how the courts end up ruling.

What's the difference between using an AI voice and Bill Hader or Jimmy Fallon doing a celebrity impersonation on his show and monetizing that?


Yes. As long as you make no claims as to who's voice it is, that is.


Their website seems to be plastered in claims that it "uses the original speaker's voice"


Voices are not protected by copyright.


The barriers to entry are so low (for now), and everyone is scrambling to build a moat.

The AI image generation space has hundreds of players. Audio has dozens.

One likely outcome is that big tech will come to each of the "successful" companies with close peer competitors and offer to buy them. If they say no, they buy their competitor. Or build it internally.

You'll have to run really fast and hard to survive. I think it's totally doable, though, and this is a very interesting attack gradient.

Best of luck! It's exciting times.


Thank you!


Seems cool! One thing I noticed listening to one of the PG essays was that it changed voices for one of the pull quotes, which was a nice touch!

Might be cool to have a feature that read out the source too, like someone would if a human was reading a quote from a book. Hard to control for everyone's different annotation style though I'd imagine.


Yeah hard to automate, but that’s why we built the UI to give the controls to everyone to make it as elaborate and high quality they want.

Thanks for kind words!


Translating a podcast into so many languages with two clicks increases our reach so much. Great stuff Wondercraft, keep it up


Ha, look into this "person's" account. Created a few months ago and has ONLY responded to Wondercraft. What a sleazy practice, but I guess we should expect a total lack of integrity from such a product. What fun times we live in!


Lmao blatant astroturfing how did the OP even get more than 10 votes?? Must have vote botted too to get to front page today


They're part of YC S22, so it's fiiiine. What use is a platform, if you can't promote the companies you invest in.


What voice is used in the translated version? Is it somehow inferred from the voice in the original language? Or I just have to choose the voice in the target language?


It can be any voice the user chooses, but by default it's the same voice as the original language - all voices speak all languages.


Glad it’s proving useful!


Recently I have produced some short video lectures to distributed to research partners. I can write reasonably well in english, but my speaking is terrible. I manage to prepare fine-tuned english subtitles.

A text-to-speech can help creating english audio tracks for those producing original content in other languages


Many educators use Wondercraft right now as it also generates video which helps students. Check out if can be helpful to you.


Hello, The TTS voice is fantastic. Any plan to make it available to developers on iOS, Android, Windows etc? The bundled TTS voices aren’t great on these platforms.


There are too many books that I would want to listen to and don't have audiobooks. i'd definitely give it a try with that in mind


Awesome to hear!


Great product, first of all. I can really see a use for it. Are you afraid that this is too easy to clone?

Someone with speechify: https://speechify.com/

And who wants to write a spotify API write code can do this.


Making a GPT + text to speech wrapper is not complicated.

Providing all other features (e.g video generation, podcast publishing, auto translation and many other features we’ve added that allow for higher quality pod creation) increase the level of complexity for reproducibility.

Ultimately, we aim to keep building features that lead to higher quality pods, easier to build, and integration of ansiliary (video, translation, show notes) that will enhance our moat.


Amazing work. Listening a bit to the HN podcast, I'm impressed by the natural-sounding pronunciation of technical terms with non-obvious phonetics like 'postgres'. Have you had to tweak a lot of these manually to get them sounding so good or is your model mostly getting them right?


Yeah Postgres is a great example, it comes up often in HN.

We have a small map of tweaks, and our users keep feeding us with more. The model performs great on its own most of the time though.


Very cool. By accumulating lots of these tweaks, I feel like you're also going to have an opportunity to backdoor your way into a great text-to-speech API product as well if you have any interest in going that direction. It seems like the main challenge there is ironing out all the edge cases and you've created an excellent feedback loop for accomplishing that.


This looks great and exciting, congrats on the launch.

I am so happy that this exists, I was considering creating a podcast but it was too much effort involved and had to do and redo takes and other priorities.

Will be considering using Wondercraft and others if they exist entirely for this now.


Thanks @colesantiago - great to hear. That's what we're trying to solve, the effort behind creating a podcast is just too much right now and a lot of content remains confined in text format.


Not sure if I'm just not seeing it, but I can't find any information on pricing, or whether there's a free tier?

(there's a "start for free" button, but that could mean anything, and it wants me to create an account)


There's a pricing link at the top of the page, we should probably try to make this more visible: https://www.wondercraft.ai/pricing


You have an accessibility issue involving large fonts that makes the pricing impossible to see. To replicate set your font size to 20 and minimum font size to 18. Should have the same effect in both FF and Chrome. Note that that's not even very big as far as low vision needs go.

screenshot here: https://share.cleanshot.com/kmXRc3ng

NOTE: using zoom "command +" is NOT the same and does not constitute a valid test for this.


Thank you for flagging and sorry about this. Fixing asap, but please use this to access for now https://www.wondercraft.ai/pricing


Congrats on the launch! Looks like ElevenLabs is your direct competitor. How do you plan to differentiate? So far their pricing is a little better and they also provide the ability to create a custom voice model.


11 is not our competitor, they are our partner and model provider. We’ve built all of the podcast related infrastructure (publishing, show notes, video etc) on top of their text to speech capabilities.


Sorry, I missed that in your description.


I wish there was more in this space geared toward audiobooks. There are so many brilliant novels in my collection that never got an audiobook release and it'd be amazing to be able to generate my own.


You can definitely use the platform for audiobooks. It's not native to importive an epub yet, but you can use the UI or the API to audify your book.


$29/hr is an order of magnitude too expensive for audiobooks.


congrats on launching! i've been a vocal fan for a little bit: https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1661848597728575489

however when i tried signing up for your pod to make my own, i was disappointed that it would only take manually entered content. i want to hook it up to my twitter or rss or discord feed, and have you Do The Thing. please!


Can't find a way to connect. Ping at hn@wondercraft.ai - would be keen to get your thing going.


Dming you on twitter, to find “The Thing”


It's amazing how good your service is. Not only the text to speech, but like even the emphasis it knows how to give on each word. Fantastic times, fantastic times indeed.


Thank you!


Your latest hn podcast post has a low level noise that makes it unlistenable to me. You should be able to use non ai tools to remove the background hiss/hum


I look at it from a consumer of podcasts point of view not a producer. If the content is good and the voice quality is natural then this can only help unlock more good content, by lowering the barrier to entry. Can't see why that is a bad thing. Sure, there will always be the equivalent of content farms, but remember that content farms exist because of Google. Without Google traffic the incentive to create useless content diminishes. Podcasts are not like that. You might be tricked into listening to one episode of an AI content generated (not AI voiced) one but in all likelihood you won't subscribe, removing the incentive.


I might have missed it on the site, but is there any plan for multiple voices on a single podcast? And any type of annotations to add emotion the voice (scared, excited, angry)?


Yeah you can have multiple voices on a single podcast in the current version.

You just need to add more than one section, and then alternate the voice you choose to talk.

Annotations for emotion are coming by the end of August.


I’ve been listening and really loving the hacker news recap. Keep up the good work and please let me listen in different languages!


thanks Magdy, there's 30 languages available on the app for anyone to create their podcast in. If there's enough interest for HN Recap in other languages we'll launch those!

Which language would you want it in?


This looks like a really cool idea. A question though: who holds the rights to the created audio? The user, or Wondercraft?


The user holds all rights. Feel free to read

Terms of Service: https://wondercraft-ai.notion.site/Terms-of-Service-fbfc043c...

Privacy Policy: https://wondercraft-ai.notion.site/Privacy-Policy-f35636350f...


Awesome, just the answer I was hoping for!


I was half expecting this to be Wondery spinning off whatever they do to make all their narrators sound like robots.


This is a welcome tool indeed. Question: how would you describe how you're different to Descript?


Descript is an excellent "podcast editing" tool, but is not a "podcast creation" / text-to-speech first platform.

It offers "Overdub", but they suggest limited use of it (replacing 1-2 words), not full podcast creation. The quality of the text-to-speech model they use is not at the same level as the ElevenLabs model we are using, so I think someone would struggle to create an engaging podcast using Overdub. I'd also think that this is not a direction that Descript would be heading to, as they have built a successful business as a "podcast editing" platform and catering to "podcast creation" would be a significant change.

In addition to this, given that we are a "podcast creation" platform rather a "podcast editing" platform, we have focused on integrating functionality that allows users to go end to end in creating a podcasts. Examples: publishing a podcast (RSS), generating a video automatically, providing a shareable podcast page, autotranslating the podcast to other languages and a lot more.


Thanks, makes sense! Have you thought about targeting Substack-based podcasts also? Given how substack podcasters likely wouldn't need the publishing part.


For substackers that don’t have a podcast, only have a written format, this tool has given them great leverage as they can easily provide more value to their audience by giving them an audio version. There’s over 100 of those on the platform currently.

For substackers that already have a podcast, that’s a separate question. Ultimately it depends on if they think that they can use the time the put in for the recording and editing process to some other creative process and use Wondercraft for generating the audio. Haven’t seen that many existing Substack podcasts for this use case to become that prevalent.


This is pretty awesome. Are any languages other than English supported?


Yes - this is full list. English, Spanish, Portuguese, German, Italian, French, Polish, Hindi, Korean,, Dutch, Turkish, Swedish, Russian, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Filipino, Ukrainian, Greek, Czech, Finish, Romanian, Danish, Bulgarian, Malay, Hungarian, Norwegian, Slovak, Croatian, Tamil


I don't see all those languages in the dropdown. Do I need a paid account?


Nice! Any plans for Japanese?


Yes, but it will take a few months. Looking like Q4.


1hr and 5hr is not long enough


Compute to get this quality of text to speech is still quite expensive. Prices will drop as models become smaller. If you need more for now, we do offer Enterprise plans.


You can try https://pod-genie.com which is slightly cheaper but I must admin the voices aren't as good.

Great work Wondercraft team!

Full disclosure - I built pod-genie.


feedback - you put up the paywall too early. let me epxlore the platform a bit before deciding whether or not to pay. i paid for the $5 plan just to explore bc i'm intensely interested in this space but most people would be put off bc your landing page does not do a good job of saying what exactly it is you do and how it works


and i just canceled bc the output isn't good, think you might be using gpt3.5 or something, give us a way to sample/tweak


Congrats on the launch! The output quality is very good!


Thanks!




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