On: There is no hard takeoff

[Hendrikto]

Funny how the benchmarks for proving ”real intelligence“ change every time there is a breakthrough.

* ”X would demonstrate real intelligence.“

* Some ML model M beats X.

* ”Well, actually, M is not really intelligent. Y would prove real intelligence.“

* repeat

[worrycue → Hendrikto]

I think we have a bit of miscommunication here. You see these “benchmarks” as necessary and sufficient for “real intelligence” when people are just saying they are necessary but not sufficient.

It’s like asking for a drink (legal age 21) and getting rebuked with a “you aren’t even old enough to drive” (legal age 16). That doesn’t mean you can drink when you are 16!

Edit: If you want a hard necessary and sufficient condition for “real intelligence”, mine is “when it can do all of our jobs, i.e. wholesale replace every human”.

[paulmd → worrycue]

> wholesale replace every human”.

As shrimple as that

[hardware2win → Hendrikto]

It changes because they ask different ppl.