Funny how @mitchellh has decided not to join the conversation. Pretty sure he had the ultimate input on this decision, and historically he's engaged with HN directly. Hmm.
Overall it seems like a loser move. Look what happened to Elasticsearch - to me and most others, ES no longer exists. I've happily moved on to OpenSearch and not looked back at poor kimchi. Due to their own actions, Elasticsearch is no longer relevant.
Will Hashicorp's move spur a similar effort to fork the last open-source license version of Terraform and other Hashicorp tools? What other choice is there when the creator gets petty and insecure, and goes hostile against the open source community that helped create it? Extremely disappointed with the Hashicorp leadership team.
MitchellH and your little sidekick Armon Dadgar - you owe your community better than this.
I interviewed with Hashicorp back in 2016 and ended up turning down the job. I used to have a small amount of regret about this decision, but now that true colors have been revealed, I know I made the right call.
What's that saying about trust?
Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair.
It's surprising to learn that people I thought were so smart could turn out to be this dumb!
I think you're being a little aggressive. It's a company, and they have to make money. Their stuff was opensourced, the good stuff will get forked, no need to hate Hashicorp.
> Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair.
Don't agree with that. That's really aggressive man. Hashicorp has built some awesome stuff, and tried to make a business based on Open Source. They haven't broken any contracts or done anything immoral - it's their choice.
Yes, check some of the previous HashiConf keynotes to see the types of customers that are paying for it and which products they use. Also HashiCorp's financials are public, although without a per-product breakout. You'll have to connect the dots between some of these things to try and get into the rough ballpark.
Cloud revenue is a subset of Subscription revenue, and Subscription revenue is mostly Support ($101.9M). In fact, 3/4 of their total revenue is Support
Irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, at this scale of developer community it's all about mindshare. They could've created a compelling paid support or other product offerings, but haven't, or maybe took too much funding and the VCs forced their hand. Regardless, it's a 1-trick pony. Even though they have other cool shit, Terraform is the golden goose, and they just strangled it.
Now someone will fork it to "Terrafoam" or whatever and that'll be it. MitchellH's vision and expertise is no longer critical to the project.
Overall it seems like a loser move. Look what happened to Elasticsearch - to me and most others, ES no longer exists. I've happily moved on to OpenSearch and not looked back at poor kimchi. Due to their own actions, Elasticsearch is no longer relevant.
Will Hashicorp's move spur a similar effort to fork the last open-source license version of Terraform and other Hashicorp tools? What other choice is there when the creator gets petty and insecure, and goes hostile against the open source community that helped create it? Extremely disappointed with the Hashicorp leadership team. MitchellH and your little sidekick Armon Dadgar - you owe your community better than this.
I interviewed with Hashicorp back in 2016 and ended up turning down the job. I used to have a small amount of regret about this decision, but now that true colors have been revealed, I know I made the right call.
What's that saying about trust?
Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair.
It's surprising to learn that people I thought were so smart could turn out to be this dumb!