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Have you gone in to buy one? They often show as "available" on the website but have been spoken for months/years ago.

I was in line for a Sienna for 20 months before I finally bailed.




I drive by the dealer everyday. 2 currently there. Personally, I've found dealers don't honor lines. One salesman told me that when they got the car I was looking for in stock they start calling people and the first person to physically show up AND sign the sales papers gets it. I ordered a Tesla after that experience.


Yeah, dealers are notorious for "whatever gets me my cash".

You could find those RAV4s here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12fx6j51iiA7q1Wm3keDu... (or the hybrid or prime) if you were bored.

Often the manufacturers allocate vehicles to dealers on somewhat of a random lottery, so if you need one fast you're often best traveling to the dealer that's as far away from a big city as possible.




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