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>I guess "capturing value" is equivalent to a "rentier oligarchy". Aka the thing you have in the US.

It really isn't equivalent, this opinion just reads like copium.

If I jump ship to a better paying job to capture more value, am I now the "rentier oligarchy"? No, I just move to where the money is as it benefits me and also benefits the state who's taxing me to fund social welfare.

Similarly it's the job of any country to do the same and orient its economy to where it can capture more value (hopefully in an ethical and environmentally friendly way), as staying behind and falling to do so means less wealth, less tax revenues, and less welfare for its citizens.

>we can still burn a lot of lignite

It will also heavily reduce your lifespan, which is good for the state I guess, as that means less pensions will have to be paid out.




> It really isn't equivalent, this opinion just reads like copium.

So what is "capturing value" other than rent? And yes, I would hope that water wars were copium, but they might be a bitter reality soon...

> If I jump ship to a better paying job to capture more value, am I now the "rentier oligarchy"?

Yes that's fine, I guess you are anyways not very interested in community (which seems to be the thing with many people around...) - btw: what exactly will happen in that place if you have a car accident and can't work for 1-2 years?

> No, I just move to where the money is as it benefits me and also benefits the state who's taxing me to fund social welfare.

Good. But don't complain once you wake up in a dystopian, oligarchic nightmare.

> as staying behind and falling to do so means less wealth, less tax revenues, and less welfare for its citizens.

The US is clearly leading in the money metric and yet most metrics much more associated with human welfare (such as lifespan) are trending down... In that metric even Cuba is now better than the US ... There might be more to that than you assume...

> It will also heavily reduce your lifespan,

I guess either it's ChatGPT here or you are very deep in copium-territory...


>So what is "capturing value" other than rent?

Offering better products and services than your competition.

>Yes that's fine, I guess you are anyways not very interested in community

Where does it say I can't care as much about the community despite me getting a better paying job? In fact, me getting a better paying job helps my community because I'll spend the extra money there at shops, bars, cafes and barbers.

You're clutching at straws at this point embarrassing yourself further.

>Good. But don't complain once you wake up in a dystopian, oligarchic nightmare.

Damn, I didn't know Austria and Poland are distopic nightmares.

>The US is clearly leading in the money metric and yet most metrics much more associated with human welfare (such as lifespan) are trending down

No, Switzerland and Luxemburg are leading the money metric and yet are far from living nightmares.

You keep trying to die on this whataboutism hill by brining in the US in the discussion at every point even though I never mentioned it once.

>I guess either it's ChatGPT here or you are very deep in copium-territory...

Guess breathing in all the lignite Feinstaub got to you good, huh?


> Switzerland and Luxemburg

Ok, now look back to the life of ordinary swiss when things around were not good (aka worldwar 2 rationing. do you really think germany, france and italy will not pull a ukraine/belarus on them if they need to?) ...

Can you tell me, how normal people will prosper in these countries if things go bad around? Spoiler: they won't.

> You keep trying to die on this whataboutism hill by brining in the US

For all matters, people in Germany are EU citizens. They go down and up with the EU. I don't think it is a relevant comparison what some EU-landlocked microstates/money-laundromats do now if you think about the future: There is the EU. There is the US. There is China. There is the 3rd World. Largely EU might not be the worst bet all things considered (incl. now)...

> Damn, I didn't know Austria and Poland are distopic nightmares.

And now tell me about the innovative industries there which germany doesn't have?


OK mate, you keep cherry-picking some random unrelated facts for some cheap whataboutism, thinking that makes an argument. I'll end my conversation here to save my sanity thank you. Good evening and enjoy your lignite.




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