What's the point of joining a decentralized, open-source federated platform if you don't want Facebook to collect information about you and track you online, even though you aren't a Facebook user?
As others have noted they are doing it anyway. Gmail accepts emails from ProtonMail despite "ideological differences" and vice-versa, otherwise it's destined to doom.
If being separated from the mainstream internet is the reasoning then yeah sure, go ahead, but you also can't complain why no one besides fanatics is using alternatives when the alternatives are not worth using for the mainstream audience.
if you're at all concerned about privacy, the fediverse is not for you.
It is anti-privacy by design.
Once you've posted something to it, you have absolutely no control over who has that data and what they do with it. That's the fundamental design of the system.
Complaining about meta potentially ingesting all data from the fediverse comes off as a bit naive. Meta is the least of the privacy concerns on the fediverse. You at least know who they are and have legal recourse against them. Huge numbers of other consumers are not even known. Just look at the thousands of instances that have popped up. Many of which are just in joe bob's closet and god only knows how they protect the data.
> Once you've posted something to it, you have absolutely no control over who has that data and what they do with it. That's the fundamental design of the system.
Welcome to the Internet. It’s always been like that.
but if I'm posting to facebook/twitter, I have privacy settings that they legally have to adhere to. Of course this doesn't prevent all scraping/copying/whatnot/whathaveyou, but it's a lot harder to scrape a private profile than something on the fediverse. Most of these sites have a vested interest in preventing scraping and the like. I have some control even if it's not great.
Fediverse I don't even have an idea off where my data is much less what their security/privacy practices are.
Which goes back to my fundamental bearishness about the mainstream viability of federation. Mainstream users don't care about how your thing is implemented. If you're finding yourself explaining this level of implementation detail to people, you have not made a mainstream product.
Mostly agreed, though this is more accurate about ActivityPub than federated stuff in general. There are privacy focused things, they just tend to lean closer to being fully decentralized (or at least feel like it).
ActivityPub, and Mastodon in particular, is very public-oriented though yeah. The feature-set and discovery stuff is pretty much inherently un-protectable.
Yes, your exact question but unironically. If you want to join a platform that will keep your information secret, you can't also want to join a platform that is federated. Those two desires are fundamentally at odds. Federation implies copying information from one node to another...
And what’s wrong about details on bunches of whore - people engaged in the oldest professional occupation known to humanity, no less - scraped into Meta systems, as a replica? It’ll end up in recording, representing, normalizing birth control as well as commercial sexwork and also current status and known issues around it.
It’s just Mastodon movement or whatever it calls itself don’t want to be associated with shady corners of lower classes or the human society, despite there shouldn’t be such classes and hidden areas in the first place, as in not trying to stigmatize, deny and nullify the fact that we’re dirty animals, but in constructively removing negative aspects of life.
