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It may be drugs. Until he publicly outed himself as a druggie, his decisions were generally good. Since then, not so good.



Drugs aren’t why people are shitty.

They’re shitty before the drugs too.


I don't know... I think some classes of drugs amplify someones shittyness. Call it Inherent Shittyness (IS). Time is a big factor, too. The longer they are on drugs, theore shitty they become.

Δ Shittyness = IS x drug amount x duration

Sometimes people get off illegal drugs and become decent again, but


I also think that everyone has a Decency score, where

Net Shittyness (NS) = IS + Decency

Some drugs remove the Decency filter such that NS = IS. If a person knows they have a high IS, and that, say, alcohol temporarily lets that show through, and they care about their perceived NS, then it behooves them to stay away from it.


that qualification really depends on the drug because they vary wildly in effect from one and another.


Its a recent thing though isn't it? Didn't he just start getting into them when he hooked up with grimes?


What?


At least Ketamine: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-ketamine-use-secur... and also pot (Joe Rogan podcast from a couple years ago.)

Wouldn't be surprised if he is also microdosing LSD, it is quite popular right now in high-tech circles (see: https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-keta... ), but I don't think someone has accused him of that yet.


I've read articles like this since I started working in silicon valley in 2012, but I haven't seen it in person. Maybe some selection bias at play, but I'm generally pretty open.

Stuff I have seen:

- LSD usage is pretty common relative to where I grew up (midwest-ish), but usually rare (once a year, burning man, someone has tried it once) even so, I'd still guess this is a pretty small minority - I guess 15% max? I'd guess mostly this is curiosity driven, reading about it, etc. I've never seen anyone seriously use it as a productivity drug.

- Adderall is more common, but that's because it's prescribed (and it works well so everyone thinks they have ADHD if they take it) - I haven't seen it abused, I've heard people talk about modafinil but have never met anyone that was actually taking it. Even in the adderall/adhd case, I'd guess 20% max? Most people I work with do not take it.

- Ketamine I don't know anyone that's tried it beyond someone in the therapy trials and non-techie druggie types.

Maybe it's more common and I'm not in the right circles, but I don't really buy it. I think it's rare and elevated by articles like this because it's salacious not because it's common. I'd guess my made up percentages are also too high.


Personally, I haven't witness any drug use in the various developer circles I've run except for ADHD meds. The number on ADHD meds is somewhere around 5-10% I would guess...


In the Bay Area, I'd suspect that the number using weed is way higher.


I'd guess 10% at most, but probably less (on a semi-regular basis, number for those that have ever tried it is higher).

There's strong selection bias with drug use because drug users tend to cluster together, I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.


> I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.

Demand is not what the weed industry thought it would be.[1]

[1] https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-...




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