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> They use less energy if they are dimmed than when they are blasted at full power.

That's true for anything, and not a difference between LEDs and incandescents.

> If I need to find something in a dark storage shed I need very bright white light for assistance.

Which you can get from a bulb.

> That's not great for the bulb. While the key benefits of the bulb is it's easy on the eyes, dims with absolutely zero flicker, easy to wind down to sleep.

Which you can get from a LED.

Both LEDs and incandescents can be bright or dim, both can be dimmable if you want them to be. LEDs offer a lot more control (some can switch between different colours, different colour temperatures), incandescent are more limited, but cheaper. And not as durable, and they waste a lot of energy when you have them on a lot when you don't need the extra heat they give.

So they're great for short periods when you need something simple, like in a shed, and not so great when you want them on for a long time or you want something unusual.




> That's true for anything, and not a difference between LEDs and incandescents.

Yeah, except LEDs don't dim, they just flicker on and off very quickly.

> Which you can get from a bulb.

Turning a bulb on full power suddenly reduces its longevity. That's the moment when most bulbs fail. I'd go with a LED in a shed. I'd go with a bulb if it's a room I am in often and I care about my eyes and sleep quality.


Dimmable LEDs do dim. And good LEDs don't flicker.

LEDs run on DC, so connected to AC power they need to turn that into DC. If you do that without a capacitor to smooth things out, you get flicker, which may be the case in cheap LEDs, but good LEDs will have a capacitor and therefore not flicker.

A LED lamp consists of many individual LEDs. Dimming a LED lamp involves turning off some of those individual LEDs, rather than supplying less power to each of them. A LED lamp needs to explicitly support that or it won't work. But those LED lamps exist. Similarly, LEDs that only produce dim light for situations where you only want dim light, exist.


Look, you are saying many things that can work in theory, but in practice all LEDs I have seen that cost reasonable money dim using PWM and have detectable flicker.

I know "good LEDs" exist but if we are talking a few dozens of dollars per good photography-grade LED fixture then we are at a point where the savings compared to running a dirt cheap regular bulb approach zero or even go negative. At least in reasonable time periods, maybe such good LEDs are cheaper in the very long run but that's not for sure (faulty units exist) and even if it was I probably wouldn't even live that long.




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