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Supreme Court rejects Genius lawsuit claiming Google stole song lyrics (arstechnica.com)
4 points by isaacfrond 11 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments



> "Plaintiff's argument is, in essence, that it has created a derivative work of the original lyrics in applying its own labor and resources to transcribe the lyrics, and thus, retains some ownership over and has rights in the transcriptions distinct from the exclusive rights of the copyright owners... Plaintiff likely makes this argument without explicitly referring to the lyrics transcriptions as derivative works because the case law is clear that only the original copyright owner has exclusive rights to authorize derivative works,"

Makes sense to me


In short: when you don't have the rights you don't have standing to sue. But the real rights holders may well be able to sue both Genius and Google for copyright infringement.


> But the real rights holders may well be able to sue both Genius and Google for copyright infringement.

Both properly license their lyrics either directly with the rights holders or through 3rd parties which properly license the rights.


Yes, but that doesn't make them the rights holders or the rights holders agents.


It makes them properly licensed to use the lyrics which means the rights holders don't have cause to sue them.


Which they didn't. This is about Genius suing Google, and even if both of them are licensees that does not give either standing to sue the other. But it would give the original rights holders standing if the content were used outside of the license. Licensee != rights holder.


The part of your original comment I quoted was regarding the rights holder sueing them which came across as implying that the rights holder may have cause to do so. My response was attempting to point out that the rights holders don't appear to have cause since the lyrics are licensed.


Am I understanding this right? You invest a lot of work in creating a database, in this case transcribing lot of songs. Then someone comes along, vacuums your website, and there is nothing you can do? How odd.


If the database contains stuff that isn't yours then you don't have standing to begin with.




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