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So Toast make most of their money on hardware and accompanying software

Cost of Goods Sold (COGS): $2,227 million Non-production costs: $884 million R&D: $280 million

Non-production and R&D costs don't seem excessive. Toast, Inc make a good product widely used and yet cannot make a profit after ten years, and are unwilling to raise the price of their actual product (hardware) to cover costs.

Their big competitor is Square who also lost $540m last year.

If ZIRP-era tech funding across the industry pushed down restaurant equipment prices such that it's not profitable for Square and Toast, have VCs been indirectly subsidising my dinner?



I think our collective minds are warped if we don’t find it odd that a restaurant software company has a 280M research and development budget.


10% of the cost of goods sold on R&D doesn't seem too wild. That has to include all (hardware) product design and likely a good chunk of software development costs as well.

For NCR, a 'boring legacy' POS manufacturer that number is 6%, but they have a bunch of older existing products (founded in 1884!)


I found it odd too. What kind of real research could they be doing. Not all ideas that a team riffs on qualify a research. Maybe this is another case where IRS audits could help out?


>have VCs been indirectly subsidising my dinner

Sure. And your "cab" rides and your co-working space and... Just like they did during dot-com. Just different categories of products.




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