> Safety can’t just be left up to each individual to deal with on their own.
Sure you can. It's the easiest thing really. You can simply click or swipe away.
> Today, we’re publishing some proposals for new moderation and safety tooling.
Seems like the same old thing? You are doing the same thing that every other tech company is doing but pretending to be different? It's like all these tech companies copied and pasted their rules from a single source.
I think we should be careful in using the word 'censored.' A lot of these people were not censored, they were removed because their behaviour was terrible.
When an individual is prevented from freely expressing himself or herself, that is censorship, and such a person has been censored.
The medium or method of expression involved, and the rationale behind the suppression, are both irrelevant.
"Censored" is a very applicable term to use when an individual has been banned from an online discussion forum, and/or the content that he or she posted has been removed.
That's not censorship (which legally refers to government restricting speech). What you have issues with is the community guidelines. If you want the rules to be 'let me have a free for all on expression,' don't enter communities that have rules about being civil and respectful. Or just jump on Twitter...
Now that the facts are settled, let me mention that what you are doing is extremely common. A word has acquired a negative association, so you try to redefine it so your side can engage in the behavior it previously condemned. The exact same thing happened to 'racism'.
It's not, it's really not. It's abiding by the community rules.
If you come into my house and be an arse, I'm going to make you leave. That's not censorship, you're just not behaving respectfully and being told to leave.
It's a form of censorship that benefits the community that implements it. If I post "I'M GOING TO FUCK YOUR WIFE" in response to every thread, you are most likely going to want to "censor" me.
Typical motte and bailey example. Are all-caps expletive-ridden posts the only thing that gets censored? Or is it also stuff like citing factual statistics from reliable sources?
we can no longer allow any posts, comments, or other content that shows a POC as the aggressor [..] This absolutely means any videos, as well as news reports, photos, personal stories, data/statistics, police reports, or any other form of media. - http://archive.is/L7V0T
Err, ok, I guess. Mods making stupid rules for community engagement are theirs to make. If you disagree you either don't break them or go elsewhere. Also, are these facts being raised within a topical discussion or dragging it out of context?
Going in and saying the stuff they've stated is explicitly banned (regardless of its political or irrational nature) and then getting banned is a rather interesting way to claim censorship.
> Then you argue that you, and not someone else, should be deciding what censorship is warranted.
Where did I argue that? I just pointed out that what reddit is doing is censorship, and that painting it as only banning spam and vulgarity is false and deceptive.
You're free to argue that they have a right to censor, and even that they're using that right appropriately, just don't lie about how they're using it.
It's implied. You agree that some censorship is appropriate but disagree with what that is, suggesting that you know better than someone else which censorship is appropriate.
It's convenient that one can't point out deceptive characterization of censorship, or highlight the nature of existing censorship, without implying a bunch of strawman positions that are easy to argue against, isn't it?
Every social media company ( reddit, facebook, twitter, etc ) was anti-censorship until a few years ago. Wasn't a cesspool. It was what made reddit great and that's why it became popular.
> enjoy the company
We did. And we would if people like you didn't try to ruin it for everyone.
Reddit became a cesspool because of censorship advocated by people like you.
It was a cesspool, with subs like jailbait and fatpeoplehate running rampant, turning platform into nothing but a hate-obsessed one with lots of porn (mind you, not the type that reddit became famous for around ~2018, but revenge and gif reuploads to imgur). I certainly would not consider any of those "what made reddit great".
What made reddit great was the era after this, when many subs were then removed for promoting hate, users could also start avoiding subs so they won't show up, and everything else left up to user choice. This was the time when more people started to trust reddit more, and thanks to the likes of tumblr struggling, people felt comfortable enough to post more valuable and personal content.
Until of course they started messing with things again and then started allowing a lot of violence on the front page and filling feeds with recommendations.
No it wasn't. It was an open, relatively honest and fun place that was more representative of the world around them then the politicized "safe space" cesspool that it became.
> What made reddit great was the era after this, when many subs were then removed for promoting hate
Did atheism, politics, news, worldnews, video and every major sub get banned? It just became concentrated and biased hate.
> This was the time when more people started to trust reddit more
No. It became a safe space and an echo chamber for a class of morons because it censored another group of morons.
What you mean is that you got to spew hate without any pushback. And that's why you liked it.
Reddit became a cesspool because the real world became more argumentative, divisive and particularly, more ideolised. That's reflected in a rise in inflammatory conversation.
That's why old forums had rules for 'no politics, no religion.' There's probably a few more categories to add now...
Sure you can. It's the easiest thing really. You can simply click or swipe away.
> Today, we’re publishing some proposals for new moderation and safety tooling.
Seems like the same old thing? You are doing the same thing that every other tech company is doing but pretending to be different? It's like all these tech companies copied and pasted their rules from a single source.