Seems really childish. The real challenge is to set up or transition to new platforms for hosting. Reddit has already been unprofitable for long enough that it is unlikely to endure. Especially with this all being about the need to have slick iPhone app access without paying for it.
Some people really can't wrap their heads around the fact that reddit's valuation is entirely based on its UGC and cost-free moderation.
It's the most effective form of protest I've seen yet.
> Especially with this all being about the need to have slick iPhone app access without paying for it.
This is so narrow viewed that it borders on dishonest. Every single app dev, who I guess are what, all selfish colluding jerks? Have concluded that reddit's pricing is untenable. Not to mention the lies, gaslighting, and complete lack of communication WITH THE DEVS WILLING TO PAY.
I really wish people would stop talking out their rear about this. It's not hard to just not comment on things you have a fledgling understanding of.
Feel free to read the latest synopsis fro Sellig for precise, detailed receipts on every last bit of this.
I guess the gaslighting works on the people on the edges though.
So dismissive! I've been repeatedly told that literally no one uses the site as is, but this is strange because that is how I use Reddit. So I am a nobody? Thanks, I guess. My opinion does not match yours therefore I must be a victim of gaslighting who can't think for myself? But I can think for myself and as someone in this industry I know how expensive and fragile constructions like Reddit are.
Serving interface requests costs money. What external apps are prepared to pay is not enough to support the business so they are saving people time and money by setting a high barrier. If serving discussion forum interface requests is so easy and cheap then shouldn't competition fix the problem anyway?
Of course there are all kinds of great apps out there. Handicapped access is certainly an issue. But any honest look shows that is not what is driving this protest. This protest is coming from the large numbers of users who can't imagine using the default web interface while browsing on their mobile phones. If Reddit management had any sense then they would somehow make things work. But they don't, and they were already on a fairly steep downward slope. And just as I am considered to be a nobody who is incapable of thinking for myself so it will also be that Reddit's fall will be seen not as a long term inability to make a profit but as clever and righteous protesters bringing them down for ending their sweet free deal. As long as it dies. The sooner the better. Then maybe I can stop hearing about how John Oliver is the great lord of the whiners.
So again, someone that clearly hasn't read any of the posts from Sellig that describe how Reddit is blatantly, intentionally killing third party apps. The API price is absolutely not reflective of the costs. And Reddit has lied about basically every single aspect of pricing, timing, and communication with those devs. Those are facts that no one has disputed.
And yes, the competition is here, and growing.
I didn't call anyone a nobody, or any of the other words you put in my mouth. I'm calling out the people blatantly misrepresenting the actual situation at hand, and I'm being generous by ascribing it to ignorance. Feel free to tell me if you've read Sellig's posts and think he's lying. And then the same from RIF and Relay, etc who say the exact same thing as Sellig, that I'm simply restating here. Remembering that he has the emails and the phone call recordings.
Nearly every niche subreddit I sub to is still in protest mode and the homepage is a joke right now. I'm not saying reddit right now is not useful to anyone, I'm stating facts and disputing the lies that redditors seem happy to repeat.
Similarly they should properly using lemmy.
That's what would really frighten Reddit.