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Don't ascribe motive ("cause xenophobic feelings") unless you can back it up.


That's the very point I'm trying to make about this dubious article and all the people posting conspiracy theories here. How can we say they aren't trying to cause xenophobic feelings?


Ah, so when people disagree with you, it's because they're conspiracy theorists and you're ready to make wild assumptions about their motives. How perfectly reasonable of you.


This article literally explores and lays out theories about how potentially events and people could've conspired to our present day. I don't think that is intellectually helpful.


If you can't say either way, don't say it at all.


Yes exactly ... If you can't prove the lab leak stop writing articles about it, people.


Don't accuse people of xenophobia, is my point.


Sure yes, that is a fair point, but this conversation doesn't ascribe that kind of limitation in the argument, because we're already talking about other motivations. Maybe (probably lol) they were negligent, maybe it was an accident, my point is if we are also trying to get people to think for a moment "or maybe they did it on purpose" then it follows that people are pushing that idea, if false, for xenophobic reasons.


The lab leak theory started in China. It has never been about xenophobia. The only people pushing the whole xenophobia thing was the CCP. Chinese news called it wuhan virus long after it was given the name Covid-19.

So stop trying to protect the CCP.


Protect them from what? Being blamed? What does that do except stoke fear? There are actual things to talk about like their aggressive naval horseshit why do we have to make them nefarious mind controllers or secret world saboteurs or whatever this lab leak hypothesis is supposed to prove.


Knowing how the virus leaked allows us to figure out how to try and prevent it happening again.

When you cover it up, prevent investigations, destroy data, and try to blame the rest of the world. That does not help understand how we can prevent it happening again.

If China was open and honest from day 1, countries would have actually tried to help. But instead all the CCP did was hide it and blame everyone else.

It’s clear that you side with the CCP. You don’t want to prevent another pandemic or make sure people are safe. All you seem to want to do is defend them and get angry at everyone who wants to discuss the issue.


I don't side with them, I side with reason.

1. Lab leak hypothesis being proven is not a requirement for any kind of prevention

2. If everyone was honest all the time life would be roses

3. These lab leak articles don't make anyone safer they just cause conspiratorial thinking.

I don't trust the China for shit, but I'm sick of Americans suckered in by lazy bullshit thinking. I can't think of anything positive to say about China, but you can't say this because it is all a dead end useless thing that serves no purpose.

How about putting back in our observers like Trump kicked out, arguably hobbling our view into what was going on. We still have not done this. Instead we're here dicking off about shit that doesn't matter. Way to be people.


Yeah, in fact being honest, sincere and collaborative with foreign powers is the tenet of NSA, CIA, and all major security agencies in the USA, right?


I agree sort of with this sentiment, but it ultimately doesn't matter even if it is that china is covering up their bioweapon accident just like anyone might. We'll never know, and we don't need that to hold them accountable for many many many other wrongs, and we don't need it to start working to prevent the next pandemic either.




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