On: Apollo will close down on June 30th

[Demmme]

Don't get me wrong I'm not here to defend any actions of reddit especially not their CEO.

But if they have stats saying 1% and less is 3th party App Traffic it's probably more that people in reddit care just not their ceo

[internetter → Demmme]

So

1. I feel like you didn't read the comment you replied to. It says in a compelling way that reddit wouldn't do this if they didn't feel a threat

2. > But if they have stats saying 1% and less is 3th party App

A solid takeaway from the original post is that you can't trust Reddit

3. All the bad press surrounding this is infinitely worse for their brand. The subreddit strike, for instance, could force their hand into taking authoritarian control over the platform, as they've hinted at. "Reddit abandons democracy" is a pretty damming headline, and they just can't seem to stop digging their hole deeper

[WJW → internetter]

> you can't trust Reddit

Sure, but what does that even mean? I cannot trust them to load the topics from /r/ruby or /r/haskell correctly because of nefarious purposes? Perhaps they have replaced all the posts with Python propaganda in the hope I wouldn't notice?

[Demmme → internetter]

I don't 'trust' reddit, I surf reddit and it's communities.

Reddit is not a bank account

[lkschubert8 → Demmme]

Aren't you trusting their published stats?

[Demmme → lkschubert8]

Nope.

I argue bases on them but they do not matter to me.

I do not use a 3th party App. For me it makes sense. But if they lied they will hurt themselves anyway

[dylan604 → internetter]

>All the bad press

You're forgetting the adage, "there is no such thing as bad press". If you're not a user of the 3rd party apps, then none of these decisions affect you, and most people are just not going to get upset about things that don't affect them directly.

[katbyte → dylan604]

> If you're not a user of the 3rd party apps, then none of these decisions affect you

likely untrue. its not just 3rd party apps it affects. it changes api access for anything using the API

for instance modtools will be affected which means literally everyone can be affected desktop or not https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/12rt5f8/how_wil...

some subreddits make heavy use of bots

these are all going to be hugely affected

[threeseed → dylan604]

Of course there is such thing as bad press.

Look at companies like Theranos where it was the investigative reporting that ultimately led to their downfall.

And as someone who has been on Reddit for 16 years and has never used a 3rd party app this decision does affect me. a) I think less of the company and the site which will affect my engagement and b) It affects everyone else on the site which in turns affects their engagement and the quality of their posts.

[dylan604 → threeseed]

Theranos was doing shady shit and ripping off investors. That's illegal. Bad press didn't shut them down. Criminal investigations shut them down and the CEO is now actually in jail.

Confusing illegal activity with activity you disagree with is not doing the conversation (or society in general) a bit of good

[JohnFen → dylan604]

> You're forgetting the adage, "there is no such thing as bad press"

Yeah, but that adage has never been true. It's just something said by people who get bad press to make themselves feel better.

[e40 → dylan604]

I feel like in the age of cancel culture, this adage isn't really a thing anymore. News travels too far and too fast.

[johnnyanmac → Demmme]

I agree but I think the more damning thing about this update is the slander. Maybe it still doesn't come down to a case, but letting it get this close to begin with is absurd, even for a CEO that got into a piss fight with his users.