I think the big usecase of the Vision Pro is just a larger screen and immersion. That's what it looks like Apple highlights in the demos.
Imagine developing with the ultimate 10x setup: several files, documentation, and debuggers open at once, with a zen nature background. Or making music, or painting, or even writing a research paper.
Imagine playing a video game but the environment wraps around you. Imagine watching movies in a virtual theater with a simulated 100-inch TV (one of Apple's demos). Even reading and browsing the web can be improved with an ambient environment and extra space for more stuff.
Is it worth $3500? For end-users probably not, but if it genuinely makes professionals and hobbyists substantially more productive, it will be worth $3500 or even way more. How much money would you spend to write, code, create faster?
Of course, this assumes the VR actually performs, and whether a bigger screen and immersion actually makes people work faster. As of now it seems VR is still a gimmick which impresses people at first, but doesn't provide much outside of niche experiences; which, if this holds for the Vision Pro, makes it very much not worth the price.
> I think the big usecase of the Vision Pro is just a larger screen and immersion
No one has come up with anything better yet. That’s one of the big problems with VR that I’ve seen. Do you have games on one hand, and a virtual environment showing mostly 2D stuff on the other.
I think that’s one of the reasons Apple is releasing this when they are. I sort of suspect they’ve gone about as far as they can. They don’t have a killer app, but that’s ok.
They’re putting it out there for developers, and we’ll see. Someone will come up with something compelling.
VisiCalc, Lotus 123, WordPerfect, Photoshop, PageMaker, Angry Birds, the web… none of them came from the platform vendor. So what will someone come up with that will make everyone rush to order the Vision 2 when it’s announced for $1500?
> Imagine developing with the ultimate 10x setup: several files, documentation, and debuggers open at once, with a zen nature background. Or making music, or painting, or even writing a research paper.
I used to believe this was the ideal setup, hell I even implemented it with monitors, but since I've integrated LLMs into my development process I find all I need are two side by side windows and now with CopilotX those are both in VSCode. I occasionally venture out for documentation but even that will make its way into the editor at some point. Using Edge and the Bing sidebar I can even save myself the trouble of reading through all of the documentation on a page by just asking Bing to retrieve the info I want from the page I'm on.
Doing all that in VR would be cool but I don't think it's going to increase my productivity nearly as much as LLMs have.
Disclaimer: I'm bullish on VR and I love gaming and socializing in VR
> but since I've integrated LLMs into my development process I find all I need are two side by side windows
This irrelevant for those of us not doing cookie-cutter-been-done-1000000-times-before stuff. In such cases all the LLMs in the world are useless, but many pages of docs open at once are useful. Go tell your LLM to write a ARMv6M assembly MIPS-II emulator. I'll wait. Go on.
I'm sorry that workflow doesn't work for you. Must be hard not getting to use modern tooling. If you care to, maybe try it out for some rubber ducking or inspirational uses, it's not limited to strictly technical things.
If you want that immersion, I think $3500 is totally reasonable. I paid more than that for my two additional monitors.
The problem for me is that I like monitors better. I like the feeling of real space around me. I cannot conceive of wearing googles on my head all day. I just don’t want to.
And I definitely don’t want to be separated from other humans by googles. It just not attractive to me.
The pixel density appears to be about half of a no-frills monitor at a usual distance.
There's plenty for movies and games but just not enough to emulate your 2-4 working windows at a reasonable angular size.
Imagine developing with the ultimate 10x setup: several files, documentation, and debuggers open at once, with a zen nature background. Or making music, or painting, or even writing a research paper.
Imagine playing a video game but the environment wraps around you. Imagine watching movies in a virtual theater with a simulated 100-inch TV (one of Apple's demos). Even reading and browsing the web can be improved with an ambient environment and extra space for more stuff.
Is it worth $3500? For end-users probably not, but if it genuinely makes professionals and hobbyists substantially more productive, it will be worth $3500 or even way more. How much money would you spend to write, code, create faster?
Of course, this assumes the VR actually performs, and whether a bigger screen and immersion actually makes people work faster. As of now it seems VR is still a gimmick which impresses people at first, but doesn't provide much outside of niche experiences; which, if this holds for the Vision Pro, makes it very much not worth the price.