this is hilarious ... because it was almost obvious all along but voicing it had you labelled a conspiracy nut.
this was never plausibly on behalf of russia and no country would do sth like that without checking back with the states - whose president btw basically just announced something like that would happen on television.
sometimes what you need isn't intel but common sense and some unbiased knowledge of contemporary politics and history.
a) it’s a bit fancy for Ukraine to do it, unnoticed tok
b) imagine if you were Putin and wanted any potential throne successor let go of the idea they would have the pipelines to barter with Germany? It’s not a completely outlandish thought, is it?
> a) it’s a bit fancy for Ukraine to do it, unnoticed tok
it isn't that difficult of a leap to see how it got done if you have any experience with technical diving.
> b) imagine if you were Putin and wanted any potential throne successor let go of the idea they would have the pipelines to barter with Germany? It’s not a completely outlandish thought, is it?
i can't even understand this line of thought enough to form a response. if that's the best you can come up with for russia's motives then i'm 100% certain they didn't do it.
well, i think it's still unknown how the vessel got into the baltic sea. the sea route is very long ... or they just chartered something suitable in poland and that then probably on sufferance by poland. while i agree that poland was also on the table as the primary actor that would have been a bit too bold of a political move for them to make.
Plans for attacking and protecting major infrastructure.
It should not be surprising that such plans exist, rather it should be surprising if they do not exist
Point being the article is trying to make something extraordinary out of the expected. Why would we not expect the major players to have some plan, if not multiple plans?
shouldn't this just be memory holed - there is no gain in spreading around theories, the narrative that this was a Russia planned op may not be entirely convincing but nevertheless is still has enthusiastic advocates
Only a combined American-Anglo-Nordic plan could have been as successful as blowing up Nord Stream pipeline with controlled demolitions. I don't believe this was a "Ukrainian plan".
Our investigation is not done yet.
But the explosion happened near us, so this is big news.
There were also Russian ships spotted going back and forth over the area before the explosion.
I really don't know what to believe on this, it's very interesting.