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Ford’s Deal to Use Tesla Charging Connector and Superchargers Could Kill CCS (forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton)
26 points by mhb on May 28, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments


Yesterday there was a post here on this and commenters that said "CCS" vs Tesla plug were scolded by others stating that there is no such thing as a CCS connector. Only CCS1 and CCS2.

This article completely ignores this and just says "European Version of CCS" leaving out the technical differences which are quite important especially for Europe where CCS2 is needed if you want 3 phase charging. Also the solving of the latching issue in the CCS2 vs the CCS1.

The Tesla plug is better than CCS1 but CCS2 is better (for Europe where every one has 3 phase power at home) than the Tesla plug in some ways.


Only the plug in North America is in question here. China has its own different plug too. In NA, 3 phase is uncommon. But for any AC plug, what matters is the rating of the car's internal charger. There are USA cars that take 18kw single phase, with Tesla's smaller connector.


Very few people have 3 phase power at home in Europe. Why would they?


It varies from country to country. 3 phase can let you send more power with the same copper, but it requires the connector be larger and with more pins, so there are arguments each way -- even in the countries where 3 phase is common. Most EVs don't come with onboard chargers bigger than 7-10kw, which can be readily done single phase, but is somewhat easier with 3 phase. But very little reason to use a 3-phase plug standard in North America. Only a few stations would provide it and almost no homes. Most people never charge at public level 2 stations.


In which countries is 3-phase power common?


Switzerland and Germany, I have never seen a house in Switzerland that did not have 3 phases even very old homes.




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