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There's a lot of differences. For example, NATO doesn't force countries to join, and doesn't invade countries if they want to leave or join another alliance. See France.

In fact - previous instance of russian CIS - Warsaw Pact - was unique among military alliances in the fact that it only invaded its members (Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan). It was a prison not a military alliance.

And in current CIS Russia sent army to Belarus to pacify million-strong protests against faked elections in 2020. And recently did the same in Kazakhstan.

The west isn't innocent. But it is infinitely better than the authoritarian alternative China, Russia, Iran and North Korea offer.




> For example, NATO doesn't force countries to join, and doesn't invade countries if they want to leave or join another alliance. See France.

France never actually left NATO the organisation – they just withdrew from NATO's military command structure (1966), only to later rejoin it (2009). No country has ever sought to leave NATO the organisation. There is a clear procedure for doing so (Article 13), but no member has ever invoked it.

Interestingly, Article 13 actually says that prior to 1969, none of the members are allowed to leave. I doubt the US would have invaded any of them if they'd broken that clause though.


> NATO doesn't force countries to join

NATO doesn't, US does.

But of course it "doesn't force countries".

It just "happenes" after a colour revolution.


> It just "happenes" after a colour revolution.

Yeah right, Ukrainians didn't wanted to move west, that's why they defend against fucking Russia for over a year. All paid actors I'm sure.


That’s my point. I think the same.

Yet, the main argument is: in the West you can protest. Everything else can be debated endlessly. This one not.




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