On: Is consciousness more like chess or the weather?

[kelseyfrog]

There's also things that don't exist until people have words for them, where the very act of speaking it brings about its existence. It seems equally likely that consciousness wouldn't have been self-evident without someone being primed to perceive it as a category.

[simonh → kelseyfrog]

Can you give an example?

Not being self-evident isn't at all the same thing as not existing. They're not even in the same category.