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Wow, reading this thread dispelled any doubt I might have had about the hedonistic treadmill.

Can you imagine having this conversation a year ago? And already there are pronouncements all over this thread that the current problems are 'intrinsic' to the approach. I'm not as readily convinced that the improvement is slowing down. Regularization is a powerful thing.



I was confused by the term, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill but it refers to the concept of humans basically adapting to anything and that the "new normal" can be an Overton Window away or more.

Couple in some Corn Pone Opinions (Twain) and constantly moving the Goal Posts (fallacy) or making grand proclamations without any evidence, even all of that is proof that we are living in interesting times.

Not to be a fence sitter, but things are moving so quickly that it is impossible to make predictions in anything but the current level of chaos. Anyone who makes predictions right now is suspect.


I didn't say anything about whether or not I expect it to get better (translation from English to code doesn't seem like an insurmountable task based on what these do so far), but I think that cuts both ways.

For every "leap to a conclusion that some things will never be fixed" there's a "leap to a conclusion that this is already some sort of more general intelligence it is."

And that's really key to my main point. The only way to avoid either of those is to actually use the things and see what does and doesn't work. That's a million times more interesting than just unrealistic hype or hate comments.




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